Better way of finding particular integral

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The discussion revolves around finding the particular integral for a second order linear differential equation of the form y'' + ay' + k^2*y = Acos(bx)sin(cx), with the conditions that a << c and b << c.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster attempts to rewrite the right-hand side as a sum of two sine functions and considers the implications of this approach, noting the resulting complexity. Some participants suggest that there are primarily two methods for finding a particular solution: undetermined coefficients and variation of parameters, questioning the feasibility of using undetermined coefficients in this context.

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Participants are exploring different methods to approach the problem, with some suggesting that despite the complexity, the original poster's approach may be necessary. There is acknowledgment that various forms may lead to similar outcomes, but no consensus has been reached on a preferred method.

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Participants note the constraints of the problem, particularly the requirement for the right-hand side to conform to specific function types for certain methods to apply. The discussion reflects on the algebraic complexity involved in handling products of functions.

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Homework Statement


I'm trying to find the particular integral for a second order linear differential equation:
y''+ay'+k^2*y=Acos(bx)sin(cx)
given a<<c and b<<c

The Attempt at a Solution


It's straight forward to rewrite the right hand side as the sum of two sines, consider each separately and then add the solutions since it's linear, but this leads to 4 separate terms and the algebra's a bit messy. So I was just wondering is there a better way to deal with products of functions on the right hand side?

Thanks
 
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No there isn't. There are, basically, two ways to find a particular solution for a nonhomogeneous linear equation: undetermined coefficients and variation of parameters. In order to use undetermined coefficients, it is necessary that the right hand side be one of the types of functions one can get as a solution to a linear equation with constant coefficients, exponential, polynomial, sine or cosine, or products of those. In order to use that for this problem you have to do just as you say here: write sin(x) cos(x) as a sum. Variation of Parameters works for any right hand side but is typically much messier.
 
You could slice and dice some other ways, but you will finish up with 4 parts however you go.

For example you could start by assuming the solution was of the form B cos(bx) sin(cx) (B is an unknown constant) since you obviously need that for the "...+k^2y = A cos(bx)sin(cx)" part of the equation. When you differentite you'll find you also need terms like sin(bx)sin(cx), sin(bx)cos(cx), cos(bx)cos(cx)

Or you could use exponential functions with 4 terms like e^i(b+c)x, e^i(b-c)x, etc.

Take your pick - one form may be nicer than the others for the rest of your problem.
 
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