Binomial expansion for fractional power

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The discussion focuses on expanding the expression |r + d - r'| = (r² + d² - r'²)^(1/2) using binomial expansion techniques for fractional powers. Participants suggest expanding in powers of specific variables such as r², d², or r'², and provide methods for applying the binomial theorem to expressions like (a + b)^(1/2). The trinomial expansion is also mentioned as a viable approach for more complex cases involving multiple variables. The goal is to retain only the linear term in "d" for simplification.

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Homework Statement


So, I'm solving a dipole thing and I have these vectors:
|r + d - r'| = (r² + d² - r'²)(1/2)

Homework Equations


I want to expand this but I have no idea how! I know I may have an infinite power series, but I may expand at the square terms tops...
Before I needed to do the same with something like (a + b)(1/2) and I got it, I found how to do it. But in this case I can't find a conection...
Can anyone please explain to me how to? Or at least indicate somewhere where I can find it? Because I looked over and couldn't find...

Thanks...
 
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Paradoxx said:

Homework Statement


So, I'm solving a dipole thing and I have these vectors:
|r + d - r'| = (r² + d² - r'²)(1/2)

Homework Equations


I want to expand this but I have no idea how! I know I may have an infinite power series, but I may expand at the square terms tops...
Before I needed to do the same with something like (a + b)(1/2) and I got it, I found how to do it. But in this case I can't find a conection...
Can anyone please explain to me how to? Or at least indicate somewhere where I can find it? Because I looked over and couldn't find...

Thanks...

What do you want to expand with respect to? Expand in powers of ##r^2##? Expand in powers of ##d^2##? Expand in powers of ##r'^2##? Expand in something else?

Just expand ##(a+x)^{1/2}## in powers of ##x##, then identify ##a## and ##x## for your problem.
 
For example,if I have ##(a+b)^n## , where n can be a fraction...I know I solve like:

##(a+b)^n= b^n +\left( ^n _1 \right)b^{n-1}a +\left( ^n _2 \right)b^{n-2}a^2+...##

If I had ##(a-b)^n## I should alternate the signal + and -...

But in the case ##(a+b+c)^n## or more precisely ##(a+b-c)^n## I don't know how to do it...
I just want to expand like the one above...
 
Paradoxx said:
For example,if I have ##(a+b)^n## , where n can be a fraction...I know I solve like:

##(a+b)^n= b^n +\left( ^n _1 \right)b^{n-1}a +\left( ^n _2 \right)b^{n-2}a^2+...##

If I had ##(a-b)^n## I should alternate the signal + and -...

But in the case ##(a+b+c)^n## or more precisely ##(a+b-c)^n## I don't know how to do it...
I just want to expand like the one above...

(a+b+c)=((a+b)+c) is the original form.
 
Paradoxx said:
For example,if I have ##(a+b)^n## , where n can be a fraction...I know I solve like:

##(a+b)^n= b^n +\left( ^n _1 \right)b^{n-1}a +\left( ^n _2 \right)b^{n-2}a^2+...##

If I had ##(a-b)^n## I should alternate the signal + and -...

But in the case ##(a+b+c)^n## or more precisely ##(a+b-c)^n## I don't know how to do it...
I just want to expand like the one above...

You have still have not answered my original question: expand with respect to what?

You could expand in power of ##a## as
(a+b+c)^n = (b+c)^n \sum_{k=0}^{\infty} {n \choose k} \left( \frac{a}{b+c} \right)^k,
where
{n \choose k}= \frac{n(n-1) \cdots (n-k+1)}{k!}
for any real ##n## and non-negative integer ##k##.

Or, you could try to expand the whole thing in powers like ##a^k b^j c^l##, perhaps by re-writing the above as
(a+b+c)^n = \sum_{k=0}^{\infty} {n \choose k} a^k (b+c)^{n-k},
then expanding each of the ##(c+b)^{n-k}## in powers of ##b## and ##c##, and then collecting terms. It would be messy.

Or, you could use the trinomial expansion, which says that
(a+b+c)^n = \sum_{k_1,k_2,k_3} c(k_1,k_2,k_3) a^{k_1} b^{k_2} c^{k_3},
where
c(k_1,k_2,k_3) = {n \choose k_1} {n-k_1 \choose k_2} {n-k_1-k_2 \choose k_3}
 
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Paradoxx said:

Homework Statement


So, I'm solving a dipole thing and I have these vectors:
|r + d - r'| = (r² + d² - r'²)(1/2)
What vectors? How are you managing to equate the lefthand side with the righthand side?
 
Sorry, I know I have not been very clear, but I'm trying to understand (and failing) that's why...
Here what I have (in the figure):
I need to expand the first term, conserve only the linear term in "d". I need to get the last equation...but I have no idea about what I'm doing :(
1.jpg
 
Paradoxx said:
Sorry, I know I have not been very clear, but I'm trying to understand (and failing) that's why...
Here what I have (in the figure):
I need to expand the first term, conserve only the linear term in "d". I need to get the last equation...but I have no idea about what I'm doing :(View attachment 97857

Much better: write ##\vec{p} = \frac{1}{2} \vec{d}## so you have
\phi(\vec{r}) = \frac{1}{4 \pi \epsilon_0} \left[ \frac{1}{|\vec{r} - \vec{p}|} - \frac{1}{|\vec{r} + \vec{p}|} \right]
Now
\frac{1}{|\vec{r} - \vec{p}|}=\frac{1}{r} (1-x_1)^{-1/2}, \;\; x_1 = \frac{2 \vec{r}\cdot \vec{p}}{r^2} - \frac{p^2}{r^2}
with as similar expression for ##1/|\vec{r} + \vec{p}|##. Now use the binomial expansion for ##(1-x_1)^{-1/2}## in powers of ##x_1##, exactly as I had suggested in post #2.

In your case, stopping at the first power (##x_1^1##) will be good enough.
 
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Paradoxx said:
Sorry, I know I have not been very clear, but I'm trying to understand (and failing) that's why...
Here what I have (in the figure):
I need to expand the first term, conserve only the linear term in "d". I need to get the last equation...but I have no idea about what I'm doing :(View attachment 97857
You have a sign error in your diagram, but I think your expression for the potential is okay for the way I think you're defining ##\vec{d}##. Still, you probably should start over and go with Ray's suggestion since ##\theta## is defined in terms of ##\vec{r}## and the dipole axis.

Remember that ##\lvert \vec{x} \rvert## is defined as ##\sqrt{\vec{x}\cdot\vec{x}}##. Use that fact and then factor the ##r^2## out of the square root to get the expression Ray wrote above on the righthand side of the equation.
 
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