Binomial Expansion Question - fractional powers

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The discussion revolves around the binomial expansion of expressions raised to fractional powers, specifically examples like (x² + 1)^(1/2) and (x² + x + 1)^(1/2). Participants express uncertainty about how to apply binomial expansion rules when dealing with non-integer exponents.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants explore the concept of expanding binomials with fractional powers and question how to apply binomial coefficients in these cases. There is discussion about the implications of using "n choose k" for non-integer values and the nature of factorials for fractions.

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The conversation is ongoing, with participants seeking clarification on the application of binomial expansion for fractional powers. Some guidance has been provided regarding the use of factorials and the concept of infinite series, but no consensus has been reached on a definitive method for expansion.

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Participants note that with fractional or negative exponents, the expansion results in an infinite number of terms, contrasting with the finite number of terms seen in expansions with positive integer exponents. There is also mention of approximating terms for practical calculations.

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My question is simple is there a formula for the bi/tri-nomial expansion of bi/tri-nomials raised to fractional powers. that is,

[tex](x^{2}+1)^{1/2}[/tex] or [tex](x^{2}+x+1)^{1/2}[/tex]

I know pascals triangle for integer exponents but i can't really find anything about fraction exponents. I also know that 1/2 or 1/3 are square or cube roots but in that form i don't see anyway of expanding them.

thanks!
 
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If you have a fractional or negative power, you have an infinite number of terms. Normally you'd expand it the usual way. But you work out nC1 and nC2 to get results such as:

nC1 =n

nC2= n(n-1)/2!


and then you'd just substitute for n.
 
I don't really understand what you are saying, can you use those rules to show me on one of the examples that I listed?
 
Can someone please explain this to me?
 
Asphyxiated said:
I don't really understand what you are saying, can you use those rules to show me on one of the examples that I listed?

Asphyxiated said:
Can someone please explain this to me?

The expansion of (a+b)n is as follows:

[tex](a+b)^n= b^n +\left( ^n _1 \right)b^{n-1}a +\left( ^n _2 \right)b^{n-2}a^2+...[/tex]

If you insert in your calculator something like 1/2C1, it won't give you a number. But you can simplify nC1 from the definition of nCr

[tex]\left( ^n _r \right) = \frac{n!}{(n-r)!r!}[/tex]

[tex]\left( ^n _1 \right) = \frac{n!}{(n-1)!1!}[/tex]

n!=n(n-1)(n-2)...3.2.1 = n(n-1)!

You can similarly simplify nC2, in the same manner.


[tex](a+b)^n = b^n + nb^{n-1}a + ...[/tex]
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so does

nC1 read n choose 1?

I really have no experience with n choose k equations, that's why I am having a hard time understanding you.
 
Yes, nC1 is read as "n choose 1." It also means the number of combinations of n things taken 1 at a time.

It is also written as
[tex]\left( \begin{array}{c} n \\ 1 \end{array} \right)[/tex]

Take a look at this Wike article, especially the section on Newton's generalized binomial theorem - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binomial_theorem
 
Well yes they are essentially the same idea. Except you are not really 'choosing' in a binomial expansion.

But you do understand the definitions of n! and nCr as I've typed above right?
 
Ill take a shot at understanding it though, so in:

[tex] (a+b)^n= b^n +\left( ^n _1 \right)b^{n-1}a +\left( ^n _2 \right)b^{n-2}a^2+...[/tex]

is:

[tex]b^{n-1}a[/tex]

then multiplied by:

[tex] \left( ^n _1 \right) = \frac{n!}{(n-1)!1!}[/tex]

is that how it goes? I got the pattern, just those n choose r phrases are a mystery to me at the moment

or rather

[tex]\left (^n _k \right)[/tex]

become the binomial coefficients, is that right?
 
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Right. The snag here is that for "n choose k" expressions, both n and k are normally integer values, with n >= r. For your problem, n is going to be 1/2.
 
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ok, so i guess the only other question I have is how would you do factorials with fractions,

what would

[tex]\frac{1}{2}![/tex] be?

I know integer factorials are easy,

[tex]4! = 1*2*3*4[/tex]...
 
  • #12
On my calculator I found a factorial button, at least I think that's what it is, if i put in:

(1/2)! it gives 0.8862269255, does that sound right? It doesn't work out to a fraction but if i solve the equation:

[tex]\left(^n _k \right) = \frac{n!}{(n-k)!k!}[/tex]

for

[tex]\left(^n _1 \right)[/tex]

with

[tex]n! = n(n-1)![/tex]

you get:

[tex]\frac{\frac{1}{2}(-\frac{1}{2})!}{(-\frac{1}{2})!(1)!} = \frac {1}{2}[/tex]

does it look like i have a hold on this here?
 
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ok then... I really don't know if this is what I am suppose to use but would this be appropriate?

[tex]\Gamma (n + \frac {1}{2}) = \frac {(2n-1)!}{2^{n}} \sqrt{ \pi } = \left(^{n-\frac{1}{2}} _{\;\;n} \right) n! \sqrt{ \pi }[/tex]

If that's the right equation would I use that were the normal binomial theorem calls for a factorial of a fraction?

This is much more complicated that I had originally hoped.

Also how do I know when to stop? With the normal theorem using whole integers there should be n+1 terms for a binomial raised to the n powers, but when n = 1/2 n+1 = 3/2 or 1+ 1/2 terms, which does make sense.
 
  • #15
As rock.freak667 said in post 2, with fractional or negative exponents, you get an infinite number of terms, unlike what happens when n is a positive integer.
 
  • #16
ah so this is hopeless? No way to get a finite number of terms? Basically its an infinite sum?
 
  • #17
Asphyxiated said:
ah so this is hopeless? No way to get a finite number of terms? Basically its an infinite sum?

The only way to get a finite number of terms is if you neglect certain powers and higher. So if you need to approximate a square root for example, to a certain degree of accuracy, higher terms will become negligible.
 

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