Biological Sciences and Biomedical Sciences

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the differences between biological sciences and biomedical sciences, including their focus areas and potential undergraduate study paths. Participants explore the scope of each field, the relevance of various biological topics, and the structure of academic programs related to these disciplines.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that biological sciences encompass all living organisms and their environments, while biomedical sciences focus specifically on biological systems relevant to humans, including health and technology.
  • Others argue that a general biosciences course may include a broad range of topics, including human biology, mammalian and plant biology, ecology, and evolution, which may not be directly relevant to those interested in human biology and medicine.
  • A few participants suggest that students should start with a general biology program that allows for specialization later, as this could help refine their interests and skills.
  • There is a discussion about the availability of biology courses and programs at universities, with some noting that first-year biology is often a common requirement for medical school admission.
  • Some participants express concern that programs attempting to cover both biological and biomedical sciences may lack depth in either area.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the broad distinctions between biological sciences and biomedical sciences, but there is no consensus on the best approach to undergraduate study or the adequacy of programs that attempt to cover both fields.

Contextual Notes

Some participants note that the terminology and structure of biology programs can vary significantly between institutions, which may affect course selection and depth of study.

Who May Find This Useful

Students considering undergraduate studies in biological or biomedical sciences, as well as those interested in understanding the distinctions and overlaps between these fields.

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What is the difference between biological sciences and biomedical sciences? In biological sciences, is the main focus ecosystems, evolution etc or is the main focus human biology or zoology?
Thanks!
 
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I think that's generally correct: biology is concerned with all living things and their environment; biomedical science/engineering typically focus on those biological systems with relevance to humans (either health or technology, like biofuels)
 
Yes, that's my understanding too.
 
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Andy Resnick said:
I think that's generally correct: biology is concerned with all living things and their environment; biomedical science/engineering typically focus on those biological systems with relevance to humans (either health or technology, like biofuels)
Is there a field that I could study at undergraduate level that teaches both biological sciences and biomedical sciences/engineering?
 
Priyadarshini said:
Is there a field that I could study at undergraduate level that teaches both biological sciences and biomedical sciences/engineering?
That is probably a little too broad of a subject. Any program that covered [or attempted to cover] all of that couldn't go into any useful depth. Depending on what you find interesting, you can probably find a good program nonetheless.
 
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Typically it's best to start general and then get more specific as you refine your interests and recongize your own skills. So you might want to look for a biology program that allows for various streams of specialization in your upper years.
 
Any general biosciences course will probably have some scope for various aspects of human biology and pathology. You will probably also have to study general mammalian and plant biology, and some ecological and evolution based topics on a general scale.

Biomedsci is just a specific subset of biosci. Generally if you're interested in human biology and medicine, a general biosciences course will end up having too much unrelated stuff (like I think most require at least 1 course in ecology in the US, although I don't know if this is an accreditation thing or just a common theme).

You'll probably end up doing more chemistry, biochemistry and molecular biology in a biomedsci course (possibly specifically revolving around human biology and medicine bu not necessarily) whereas these would probably be somewhat more ancillary topics in a general biosciences course.

Consider why you're interested in any courses in the biological regime in the first place, and you'll probably find your answer quite quickly.
 
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artfullounger said:
Any general biosciences course will probably have some scope for various aspects of human biology and pathology. You will probably also have to study general mammalian and plant biology, and some ecological and evolution based topics on a general scale.

Biomedsci is just a specific subset of biosci. Generally if you're interested in human biology and medicine, a general biosciences course will end up having too much unrelated stuff (like I think most require at least 1 course in ecology in the US, although I don't know if this is an accreditation thing or just a common theme).

You'll probably end up doing more chemistry, biochemistry and molecular biology in a biomedsci course (possibly specifically revolving around human biology and medicine bu not necessarily) whereas these would probably be somewhat more ancillary topics in a general biosciences course.

Consider why you're interested in any courses in the biological regime in the first place, and you'll probably find your answer quite quickly.
Thank you!
 
Choppy said:
Typically it's best to start general and then get more specific as you refine your interests and recongize your own skills. So you might want to look for a biology program that allows for various streams of specialization in your upper years.
Do colleges offer biology as a course? Most places I've looked at have biochemistry, molecular biology, biological sciences and biomedical sciences.
 
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you'd prob want to start in biosciences of those 4, but assuming you're in the US, you can always just start taking biology classes in freshman/sophmore years then make up your mind after when you have a better idea anyway (and access to the university/department advisors)
 
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Priyadarshini said:
Do colleges offer biology as a course? Most places I've looked at have biochemistry, molecular biology, biological sciences and biomedical sciences.

First year biology is a fairly common course. It's commonly required for medical school admission, so about 95% of first year science students tent to take it.

Or do you mean a biology "program?" In that case, the label may vary, but again, I would imagine that it's fairly common. Start by looking through the course requirements of the programs that you're interested in. Despite different program names there will be a lot of overlapping coursework. Then you can make choices based on the courses that you would be taking.
 
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Purpose of question? General or maybe you are thinking of your not distant future choices?

If latter tell us whether you have a wide choice of University or similar Institutions to apply to.

How soon? Do you have to make choices of Course/Department etc. soon and how much flexibility to switch around later?
 
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Choppy said:
First year biology is a fairly common course. It's commonly required for medical school admission, so about 95% of first year science students tent to take it.

Or do you mean a biology "program?" In that case, the label may vary, but again, I would imagine that it's fairly common. Start by looking through the course requirements of the programs that you're interested in. Despite different program names there will be a lot of overlapping coursework. Then you can make choices based on the courses that you would be taking.
I meant a biology "program". Thanks, I'll look into it!
 
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epenguin said:
Purpose of question? General or maybe you are thinking of your not distant future choices?

If latter tell us whether you have a wide choice of University or similar Institutions to apply to.

How soon? Do you have to make choices of Course/Department etc. soon and how much flexibility to switch around later?


I'm thinking about my not so distant future choice. For a biology related course, I would say I have limited choice, most of which depends on whether or not I get a scholarship. In about a year or so I'll have to start applying, so that is pretty soon. There is not much flexibility to switch around later which is why I want to be clear on the difference between the multiple biology related courses offered by universities.
 
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artfullounger said:
you'd prob want to start in biosciences of those 4, but assuming you're in the US, you can always just start taking biology classes in freshman/sophmore years then make up your mind after when you have a better idea anyway (and access to the university/department advisors)
Thanks!
 

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