Black Body Radiation (Awkward integral)

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The problem involves determining the percentage of the Sun’s blackbody radiation spectrum that falls within the visible light spectrum, specifically between 400-700 nm, at a temperature of 5000K. The original poster attempts to evaluate an integral related to the brightness function for this purpose.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster discusses their attempt to evaluate the integral using integration by parts and expresses confusion over the results obtained from Mathematica. They question what it means to solve an integral numerically and how to apply the fundamental theorem of calculus in this context.

Discussion Status

Participants have provided insights into the nature of the integral, noting that it does not have a primitive in terms of elementary functions. Some suggest using approximations or numerical methods for evaluation. The original poster has received feedback on the numerical integration process, indicating a productive exchange of ideas.

Contextual Notes

There is mention of the need for numerical integration due to the complexity of the integral involved, and the original poster's reference to their TA's guidance highlights the constraints of the problem-solving process.

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Homework Statement


What percentage of the Sun’s blackbody radiation spectrum falls into the visible light spectrum (400-700 nm). Where T=5000K
Hint: Integrate over frequencies


Homework Equations


B=2h\nu3c-2 (eh\nu/kT-1)-1

Where \nu is the frequency of the light.

The Attempt at a Solution



Ok so the problem is very straightforward, I'm just having trouble evaluating the integral. I need to integrate the equation for the brightness (B) over the frequency \nu where the limits are given by the span of wavelengths in the visible part of the spectrum. The integral then just looks something like this:
\int B=\int \nu3(e\nu-1)-1 , where i excluded the constants.

I tried integration by parts but it didn't work. I also plugged it into mathematica and got a very weird, long answer that didn't make sense. When I asked my TA about it he told me I had to solve it numerically. What does it mean to solve an integral numerically? Am I just supposed to plug in the lower limit and then subtract that from what I get when I plug in the upper limit? I am thinking of the fundamental theorem of calculus here.

Thanks
 
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This integral doesn't have a primitive in terms of elementary functions. To evaluate this integral you can use the Raleigh-Jeans approximation by looking it up in your book or by using the Taylor series of the exponent up to first order.
 
When you integrate a function numerically, you basically divide the area up into a bunch of narrow rectangles or trapezoids and add them all up. There are a lot of ways to do this, try reading this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Numerical_integration

To accomplish this, you could write a program to do it, or use a canned program. Mathematica has a function NIntegrate which will do numerical integration and, given the function and the endpoints, will just return a number.
 
Thanks guys
 

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