Block on a Plane Ex from Morin-Statics

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The problem involves a block of mass M resting on an inclined plane at an angle theta, with a horizontal force applied. Participants are discussing the forces acting on the block, specifically the normal and friction forces, while referencing a free-body diagram.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are attempting to balance forces using vector equations and are exploring the relationship between the applied force and the friction force. Questions arise regarding the calculation of the friction force and its geometric interpretation.

Discussion Status

Some participants have expressed confusion about the concepts presented in the reference material and are seeking clarification. There is acknowledgment of a potential solution, but no consensus has been reached on the correct approach to find the friction force.

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Participants note that the reference book may not provide sufficient clarity for those new to the topic of statics, which could impact their understanding of the problem.

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Homework Statement



Example (Block on a plane): A block of mass M rests on a fixed plane inclined
at angle theta. You apply a horizontal force of Mg on the block, as shown in figure 1-1 (attached). The free-body diagram for this is also attached as an image.

Assume that the friction force between the block and the plane is large enough
to keep the block at rest. What are the normal and friction forces (call them N
and F_f) that the plane exerts on the block?

Homework Equations



Just the use of basic statics?
Also trigonometric expressions involving sin and cos

The Attempt at a Solution



I initially try to find F_f itself by drawing the vector connection the heads of F_f and the Mg applied force (as shown in the free-body diagram).
However, I cannot find F_f this way.
I think there is something I am missing while trying to balance the forces.
 

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Write down the vector equation for forces in equilibrium [tex]\Sigma \vec{F} = 0[/tex], and solve it :wink:
 
Thanks Hikaru! I had never actually heard of statics before, and my book (Morin) was not very clear on how this worked.

But I think I finally figured out how it works.

I have another question though: since F_f = Mg * sin(theta) - Mg * cos(theta), shouldn't this imply that the magnitude of F_f is that same expression?
If so, then I feel like there should also be a geometric solution.
 
I also agree that Morin's book isn't so instructive and therefore not appropriate at introductory level, though insightful. It requires the readers to know quite a lot before reading it.

Yes, you got the correct answer :wink: This lies behind one equation: [tex]\Sigma \vec{F} = 0[/tex], which can be viewed under either geometric angle or algebraic approach.
 

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