Bohr model find orbital radius for electron

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The discussion centers on calculating the orbital radius of an electron in the Bohr model, given its speed of 8.9e5 m/s. The initial calculation led to a negative radius of -2.842e-4 m, which indicates a misunderstanding of the signs in Coulomb's law. The correct interpretation emphasizes that the radius must be positive, and the error stemmed from not squaring a term in the equation. The final resolution requires careful consideration of the forces involved and their directions.

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Homework Statement



In the Bohr model, the electron is imagined to move in a circular orbit about a stationary proton. If the speed of the electron were 8.9e5 m/s, what would be the corresponding orbital radius?

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The Attempt at a Solution

Fe=ma
Fe=ma
a=Fe/m
(v^2)/r=(kqq/r)/m
v^2rm=kqq
(8.9e5)(r)(9.11e-31)=(9e9)(1.6e-19)(-1.6e-19)
r=-2.842e-4m

I hope you can help! :biggrin:

--aweg
 
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awertag said:
(v^2)/r=(kqq/r)/m
'Quick note regarding Coulomb's law,

\vec F = k \frac{q_1 q_2}{r^2} \hat r.

If q1 and q2 are of the same sign, multiplying them together gives a positive sign. If the result is positive, it means that the force acting on the second particle points from the first particle toward the second particle. This is because the unit vector \hat r is defined such that the force on a given particle points from the other particle toward the given particle. [Edit: This is opposite the way Newton's law of gravity defines the unit vector, by the way.]

In other words, ignoring the vector notation for the moment, if

F = k \frac{q_1 q_2}{r^2}

is positive, it means the charges repel. If F is negative, the charges attract (the negative sign implies that the force is in the opposite direction; i.e. the force on a given particle points toward the other particle, instead of away from it).

In your answer you came up with a negative value for r, and the above explanation is where it came from.

But you should rethink what it all means before carrying the sign all the way through to r. (Hint: your final r needs to be positive.)
v^2rm=kqq
(8.9e5)(r)(9.11e-31)=(9e9)(1.6e-19)(-1.6e-19)
r=-2.842e-4m
You forgot to square something. :wink:
 
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ok I've got it now. thanks so much! have a good day :)
 

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