Bohr model find orbital radius for electron

In summary, the conversation focused on using Coulomb's law to calculate the orbital radius of an electron in the Bohr model. The equation used was F=k(q1q2)/r^2, and it was noted that if q1 and q2 are of the same sign, the force will be positive, indicating repulsion. The final calculated value for the orbital radius was -2.842e-4m, but it was noted that this is negative due to the direction of the force and should be reconsidered.
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Homework Statement



In the Bohr model, the electron is imagined to move in a circular orbit about a stationary proton. If the speed of the electron were 8.9e5 m/s, what would be the corresponding orbital radius?

Homework Equations


The Attempt at a Solution

Fe=ma
Fe=ma
a=Fe/m
(v^2)/r=(kqq/r)/m
v^2rm=kqq
(8.9e5)(r)(9.11e-31)=(9e9)(1.6e-19)(-1.6e-19)
r=-2.842e-4m

I hope you can help! :biggrin:

--aweg
 
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awertag said:
(v^2)/r=(kqq/r)/m
'Quick note regarding Coulomb's law,

[tex] \vec F = k \frac{q_1 q_2}{r^2} \hat r. [/tex]

If q1 and q2 are of the same sign, multiplying them together gives a positive sign. If the result is positive, it means that the force acting on the second particle points from the first particle toward the second particle. This is because the unit vector [tex] \hat r [/tex] is defined such that the force on a given particle points from the other particle toward the given particle. [Edit: This is opposite the way Newton's law of gravity defines the unit vector, by the way.]

In other words, ignoring the vector notation for the moment, if

[tex] F = k \frac{q_1 q_2}{r^2} [/tex]

is positive, it means the charges repel. If F is negative, the charges attract (the negative sign implies that the force is in the opposite direction; i.e. the force on a given particle points toward the other particle, instead of away from it).

In your answer you came up with a negative value for r, and the above explanation is where it came from.

But you should rethink what it all means before carrying the sign all the way through to r. (Hint: your final r needs to be positive.)
v^2rm=kqq
(8.9e5)(r)(9.11e-31)=(9e9)(1.6e-19)(-1.6e-19)
r=-2.842e-4m
You forgot to square something. :wink:
 
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ok I've got it now. thanks so much! have a good day :)
 

1. What is the Bohr model?

The Bohr model is a simplified representation of an atom developed by Niels Bohr in 1913. It shows the electrons orbiting the nucleus in specific energy levels or shells.

2. How do you determine the orbital radius for an electron in the Bohr model?

The orbital radius for an electron in the Bohr model can be determined by using the formula r = n² x h² / 4π²mZ², where n is the energy level, h is Planck's constant, m is the mass of the electron, and Z is the atomic number of the element.

3. What is the significance of the orbital radius in the Bohr model?

The orbital radius in the Bohr model represents the distance between the electron and the nucleus. It also determines the energy level and the stability of the electron in its orbit.

4. Can the orbital radius change for an electron in the Bohr model?

Yes, the orbital radius can change for an electron in the Bohr model. As the electron gains or loses energy, it can move to a different energy level or shell, resulting in a change in the orbital radius.

5. How does the Bohr model explain the stability of atoms?

The Bohr model explains the stability of atoms by showing that the electrons are in fixed energy levels and cannot exist in between these levels. This means that the electrons cannot spiral into the nucleus and the atom remains stable.

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