Boltzmann constant in formulas

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the use of the Boltzmann constant in various formulas, particularly in the context of calculating intrinsic carrier concentration. Participants explore the different forms of the Boltzmann constant and their implications for calculations involving energy units.

Discussion Character

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  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants note that the Boltzmann constant can be expressed in different units, such as k=8.62*10-5 eV/K and k=1.38*10-23 J/K, and question which form to use in specific formulas.
  • One participant emphasizes that kT must have units of energy, suggesting that if the numerator is in volts, kT should be in eV.
  • Another participant mentions the use of kTB in the context of noise power, providing a specific calculation example using k=1.38 x 10-20 millijoules per Kelvin.
  • There is a discussion about the approximation of room temperature, with some participants stating that T is often taken as 293 K or 300 K, indicating a preference for significant figures in calculations.
  • One participant suggests that kT should be in the same units as the energy term Eg in the formula for intrinsic carrier concentration.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying preferences for the units of the Boltzmann constant and the corresponding temperature, leading to multiple competing views on the appropriate usage in calculations. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best practice for unit consistency.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the importance of unit consistency in calculations involving the Boltzmann constant and energy terms, but do not resolve the discrepancies in values found across different sources.

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Hi, I see that Boltzmann constant comes in different forms like: k=8.62*10-5 eV/K and also k=1.38*10-23J/K.
Which one should I use in , say formula for intrinsic carrier concentration ni = sqrt(Nc*Nv)*e-Eg(T)/2kT ?
 
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kT has units of energy; Joules or electron volts. Always remember that an exponent has to be unitless. If the numerator has volts, then kT is in eV.

Sometimes you will see kTB which is noise power times bandwidth.

The noise power is kTB where k= 1.38 x 10-20 millijoules per deg kelvin, T=293 kelvin, and B(bandwidth in Hz)= 1 MHz

So noise power is 1.38 x 10-20 x 293 x 106 Hz= 4 x 10-12milliwatts per MHz = -114 dBm per MHz.

Add 3 dB noise figure to get -111 dBm per MHz
 
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Thank you, Bob! I used the eV form before but I saw some different results on the web and just wasn't sure why is there always a slightly different value for ni, depending on which website you look.
 
Instead of k_ B = 8.62 \times 10^{-5} \, \frac{\mathrm{eV}}{\mathrm{K}}, people usually find it convenient to remember the following number:
<br /> k_B = \frac{1 \, \mathrm{eV}}{11600 \, \mathrm{K}}<br />

(notice that (8.62 \times 10^{-5})^{-1} = 1.16 \times 10^4, so the above are equivalent)
 
At room temperature T \approx 293 \, \mathrm{K}, the value k_B \, T \approx 25 \, \mathrm{meV}.
 
Dickfore said:
At room temperature T \approx 293 \, \mathrm{K}, the value k_B \, T \approx 25 \, \mathrm{meV}.

On the web you usually see 300K as room temperature. I guess it depends on one's preference? :D
 
aarnes said:
On the web you usually see 300K as room temperature. I guess it depends on one's preference? :D

Right, that is why i used only 2 significant figures in the final result and the approximate sign.
 
aarnes said:
Hi, I see that Boltzmann constant comes in different forms like: k=8.62*10-5 eV/K and also k=1.38*10-23J/K.
Which one should I use in , say formula for intrinsic carrier concentration ni = sqrt(Nc*Nv)*e-Eg(T)/2kT ?


boy, you sure are good at using HTML markup. i never knew you could get a subscript in the superscript. anyway, it might look better with LaTeX

n_i \ = \ \sqrt{N_c N_v} e^{-\frac{E_g(T)}{2 k T}}


now, to answer your question, you want you kT quantity to be in the same units as the E_g quantity. if k=8.62 \times 10^5 eV/K then T better be in Kelvin and E_g better be in eV.
 

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