Bomb calorimeter and coffee cup calorimeter

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Discussion Overview

The discussion focuses on the differences between bomb calorimeters and coffee cup calorimeters, specifically regarding their operational conditions of constant volume and constant pressure. Participants explore the implications of these conditions and the physical characteristics of each calorimeter type.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions why both calorimeters are not considered to have constant volume, suggesting that both are closed containers.
  • Another participant explains that a coffee cup calorimeter is typically not sealed well enough to contain pressure, implying that it operates at atmospheric pressure.
  • A subsequent reply confirms that the atmospheric pressure remains constant, supporting the idea that the coffee cup calorimeter functions under constant pressure conditions.
  • A later reply agrees with the previous point, reinforcing the understanding of the pressure conditions in a coffee cup calorimeter.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the operational conditions of the coffee cup calorimeter being at constant pressure due to its design, while the discussion remains open regarding the initial confusion about the volume conditions of both calorimeters.

Contextual Notes

The discussion does not resolve the initial participant's confusion about the volume conditions of both calorimeters, leaving assumptions about their definitions and operational characteristics unaddressed.

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What is different between a bomb calorimeter and a coffee cup calorimeter that makes one only constant volume and the other only constant pressure?

to me, it seems that both of them should have constant volume because they are both closed containers...

and why is the pressure in a coffee cup calorimeter constant?

What am I missing?

thanks!
 
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Because usually, a coffee cup is not sealed well enough to actually contain pressure.
 
so that means it stays at atmospheric pressure, which is constant...!
 
Exactly.
 

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