Book on Tensors & General Relativity for Beginners

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around recommendations for introductory books on tensors and general relativity, focusing on the suitability of various texts for beginners in physics and mathematics.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that Carroll's book is the best introductory text for general relativity, though this is contingent on the reader's level of understanding.
  • Another participant argues that Carroll's book may be too mathematically challenging for someone new to the subject and recommends Schutz's "A First Course In General Relativity" as a more suitable introductory text.
  • A participant questions whether Schutz's book is primarily focused on special relativity despite its title, suggesting it uses tensors and concepts that generalize to general relativity.
  • Another participant agrees that Schutz's book covers special relativity extensively but emphasizes that it is necessary for building the foundational concepts before moving to general relativity.
  • One participant prefers Hobson's text for its accessibility, diagrams, and thorough material, suggesting it is easier for beginners.
  • Another participant mentions "Relativity Demystified" by McMahon as a cost-effective option, noting their progress with tensor calculus in the book.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing opinions on the appropriateness of specific texts for beginners, with no consensus on a single recommended book. Some participants advocate for Schutz, while others prefer Hobson or Carroll, indicating a variety of perspectives on what constitutes an introductory text.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the ambiguity of what "introductory" means, suggesting that different backgrounds in physics and mathematics may influence the perceived difficulty of the recommended texts.

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HI,

could someone please suggest me a good book to learn both Tensors as well as General relativity? It has to be introductory.
 
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What is your background in physics and math? Do you good working knowledge, (i.e, able to do textbook problems) of special relativity, multivariable calculus, and linear algebra?
 
I think the best introductory GR book is Carrol's (though this will depend on your level).
 
nicksauce said:
I think the best introductory GR book is Carrol's (though this will depend on your level).

I think Carroll's book will be way too mathematically challenging to someone who might just wish to learn the physics the first time around. Unless one is looking to learn things in a mathematical fashion, I wouldn't suggest Carroll. Since the OP is only asking for an intro text, I would certainly not go for Carroll straight away.

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As an intro text, I recommend Schutz's "A First Course In General Relativity". I myself am using it at the present as a reference. He has a really good presentation of the math involved while making certain the physics isn't sidelined.
 
anirudh215 said:
As an intro text, I recommend Schutz's "A First Course In General Relativity".
I don't have Schutz, but my understanding is that, contrary to the title it is primarily focused on SR, but it uses tensors and other such concepts that generalize easily. Is that correct?
 
anirudh215 said:
Since the OP is only asking for an intro text, I would certainly not go for Carroll straight away.

The problem is that "intro" means many things to many people. Since Carroll's text is entitled "An Introduction to General Relativity", I assume there must be some people who would consider it an introductory text. But we can't really know more without hearing back from the OP.
 
DaleSpam said:
I don't have Schutz, but my understanding is that, contrary to the title it is primarily focused on SR, but it uses tensors and other such concepts that generalize easily. Is that correct?

Here is the table of contents.
 
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general relativity - a guide for physicsts, by Hobson et al
 
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For the money, consider Relativity Demystified by McMahon. You can buy them used on the internet for a few dollars.

I just finished Chapter 4 on Tensor Calculus. It took much practice, but I am getting the hang of it.
 
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DaleSpam said:
I don't have Schutz, but my understanding is that, contrary to the title it is primarily focused on SR, but it uses tensors and other such concepts that generalize easily. Is that correct?

I don't think this is correct. He certainly spends about 100 pages or so on special relativity and develops it quite thoroughly, but that's expected for a first course since it develops much of the machinery before it gets generalized. I would go with Schutz and couple that with Alan Lightman's problems and solutions book. Hobson is certainly good too.
 

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