Books that teach classical mechanics through a discourse method

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around finding books that teach classical mechanics through a discourse method, emphasizing the use of interesting questions rather than standard numerical problems. Participants are seeking recommendations for texts that engage curiosity and theoretical exploration, similar to works like "Understanding Basic Chemistry Through Problem Solving" and "Physical Paradoxes and Sophisms" by V. N. Lange.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests "An Introduction to Mechanics" by Kleppner and Kolenkow, noting its interesting examples and clear explanations, though another participant questions its alignment with the request for engaging questions.
  • Multiple participants express dissatisfaction with traditional physics teaching methods, advocating for a more inquiry-based approach to learning physics.
  • Galileo's "Discorsi" is mentioned as a potential resource, though its relevance to the specific request is not elaborated upon.
  • There is a discussion about the appropriateness of studying physics through curiosity-driven methods versus traditional academic approaches, with some participants expressing concern over this method for serious students.
  • A participant requests recommendations for puzzle books or websites related to classical mechanics, specifically asking for personal experiences with the suggested materials.
  • Another participant raises a question about the distinction between standard textbook problems and the "interesting" problems sought by the original poster.
  • The Feynman Lectures are proposed as a possible fit due to their engaging style and interesting problem posing.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of opinions on the effectiveness of traditional versus inquiry-based learning methods, with no clear consensus on the best approach or specific book recommendations that meet the original request.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express frustration with the limitations of standard physics textbooks, indicating a desire for resources that foster deeper engagement through questioning. There are unresolved issues regarding the suitability of suggested texts for the specific discourse method sought.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be of interest to students and educators looking for alternative approaches to teaching and learning classical mechanics, as well as those seeking engaging resources that promote curiosity in physics.

Viishnuuu
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Books that teaches classical mechanics through a discourse method ie asking interesting questions and answering them maybe a similar one to
Understanding Basic Chemistry Through Problem Solving: The Learner's Approach
Book by Jeanne Tan and Kim Seng Chan. Not exactly asking numerical questions but interesting curious theoretical questions and answering them

Please don't recommend tarasov's book they don't ask interesting questions
 
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Thank you for the suggestion,I don't understand where this book has interesting questions this book is similar to other standard college books maybe the theory is simple but i was searching for one similar to
V. N. Lange

Physical Paradoxes and Sophisms pls suggest if u know of any similar one's​

 
Viishnuuu said:
Thank you for the suggestion,I don't understand where this book has interesting questions this book is similar to other standard college books maybe the theory is simple but i was searching for one similar to
V. N. Lange

Physical Paradoxes and Sophisms pls suggest if u know of any similar one's​

What is your background Viishnuuu?
From your previous activity, I think you are studying physics for fun. Right? Why not take a step forward and study REAL physics? What it all takes is to know basic integration and differentiation. You will never know the real beauty of physics if you don't study it in natural way
 
Hm, the first thing coming to mind is Galileo's "Discorsi" :-).
 
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Ganesh Mammu said:
What is your background Viishnuuu?
From your previous activity, I think you are studying physics for fun. Right? Why not take a step forward and study REAL physics? What it all takes is to know basic integration and differentiation. You will never know the real beauty of physics if you don't study it in natural way
To be frank with you I never liked physics or may I should reprase it as I never liked the way it was taught in school just repeating useless vocabulary for 2-3 years and I am fed up of this standard way physics is taught in school so I thought of studying it in the most natural way possible ie by inducing one of man's most basic Instinct ie by asking good questions about the physical world and searching for good books from experienced people like you and well here I am
 
vanhees71 said:
Hm, the first thing coming to mind is Galileo's "Discorsi" :-).
Please don't reply for the sake of replying 🙏🙏🙏🙏, don't troll bro🙏🙏
 
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Viishnuuu said:
To be frank with you I never liked physics or may I should reprase it as I never liked the way it was taught in school just repeating useless vocabulary for 2-3 years and I am fed up of this standard way physics is taught in school so I thought of studying it in the most natural way possible ie by inducing one of man's most basic Instinct ie by asking good questions about the physical world and searching for good books from experienced people like you and well here I am
If you are studying in this way for your curiosity, then it's okay. There are many pop science authors to help you. But if you are physics or math student, then I strongly discourage that. However a quick Google search gave me thousands of results but this one looks interesting:-
https://books.google.co.in/books?id...CAIQAw#v=onepage&q=puzzles of physics&f=false
 
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Ganesh Mammu said:
If you are studying in this way for your curiosity, then it's okay. There are many pop science authors to help you. But if you are physics or math student, then I strongly discourage that. However a quick Google search gave me thousands of results but this one looks interesting:-
https://books.google.co.in/books?id=hcFFoct2JAEC&printsec=frontcover&dq=puzzles+of+physics&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjR0-XK0N3yAhWb7HMBHVg8By84ChDoAXoECAIQAw#v=onepage&q=puzzles of physics&f=false
Please just to know but why do you discourage it and thank you for your suggestions
 
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How do you distinguish the example problems solved in a standard physics textbook from what you are looking for? In general, "interesting" is not a good proxy for what will teach you the skills to solve problems yourself.

Maybe the Feynman lectures would suit your purpose. They are kind of "chatty" and Feynman usually poses interesting problems.
 
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I am searching for great puzzle websites or puzzle books on classical mechanics maybe similar one's to VN Lange puzzles and sophisms book or Thinking physics by Lewis Carroll Epstein puzzle book and please don't recommend from Google searches I have done a ton of that only recommend if you have used it or feel it's as good as the above mentioned one's it's a request 🙏🙏😁😅

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