Boron on extrasolar rocky planets?

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The discussion revolves around the availability of boron on rocky planets orbiting old, metal-poor Population II stars compared to younger Population I stars. The context includes theoretical considerations for a starship's resource needs, particularly for sustaining life and conducting necessary metallurgy and chemistry in a deep space environment.

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  • One participant suggests that rocky planets around older Population II stars may have accumulated boron through cosmic-ray spallation over time, but questions whether younger Population I systems with recent tectonic activity might provide more accessible boron.
  • The need for boron in various applications, such as agriculture (specifically for growing coffee) and metallurgy, is emphasized as critical for the starship's crew.
  • Another participant expresses uncertainty about the availability of knowledgeable contributors on the forum to address the question posed.
  • A later reply indicates that there is limited evidence of rocky planets in Population II systems, suggesting that this may not be a viable avenue for consideration.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on the availability of boron in different stellar populations, and multiple competing views remain regarding the implications of Population I versus Population II systems.

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The discussion highlights limitations in available data regarding the presence of rocky planets in Population II systems and the specific conditions under which boron might be accessible.

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TL;DR Summary: Would rocky planets around old, metal-poor Population II stars have more accessible boron than our younger, Pop l Sol's ??

I'm writing an 'As Hard Science As I Can' about a star-ship far astray in the 'Deep & Dark'.

'City of Fresno' has about 20~~25 LY fuel range as-is, currently doing a 360º/4_Pi passive mapping scan. Then they'll travel about a light year, repeat. Another light-year but skew, repeat. After two more such to complete tetrahedron, they'll have a good map of locale out to their fuel range, with stellar spectra.

Icy moons or Oort comets may be tediously mined for H/D fusion fuel, side-streams should provide a lot of micro-nutrients to top-up the 'Ponics.

But Boron is a 'gotcha': It is remarkably rare, produced by random cosmic ray spalling of eg carbon, then concentrated unto 'accessible' by natural leaching of volcanic materials. So, planet must be big enough or tidally-stirred for tectonics. Even Mars has some borates in ancient crater lakes' clay strata...

The ship's crew need boron / borates to supplement their 'Ponics, especially if they want to grow Coffee, which is famously greedy. Boron is essential for metallurgy, to alloy into the bits and cutters to make the tools to make the tools they'll need. Boron is also essential for boro-silicate glass to do 'bench' and 'prep' chemistry...

So, for boron, are they likely to glean more from a younger 'Pop_l' system, with 'geologically recent' tectonic activity ?
Or from a tired, old, 'Pop_ll' system that's had much more 'deep time' to accumulate cosmic-ray spallation ??
 
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Please, any ideas ??
 
That's a question that requires some pretty specific knowledge to answer. Unfortunately I'm not sure you'll find someone on the forums who can answer it.
 
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After perusing umpteen arcane arxiv PDFs, turns out that scant few 'Pop ll' systems have rocky planets, so I may strike such from serious consideration...

Fortunately, the ship is in the galaxy 'disk', not an old 'Pop ll' zone, such as bulge, halo or globular cluster...
 
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