Bound surface charge of a cylinder

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around a problem involving a cylinder made of linear dielectric material with a uniform dipole distribution, subjected to an externally applied electric field parallel to its axis. Participants are exploring the calculation of bound surface charges on the cylinder.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the values of bound charges at different surfaces of the cylinder, referencing the polarization vector and its relationship to the external electric field. There is a focus on ensuring the final expressions incorporate the external electric field and permittivity.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on the need to express the answers in terms of the external electric field and the material's permittivity. Multiple interpretations of the problem's requirements are being explored, particularly regarding the dependence of the polarization on these quantities.

Contextual Notes

There is an emphasis on the assumption that the permittivity is a given quantity, which is necessary for deriving the bound charge expressions. The original poster's attempts to clarify their understanding of the problem are noted, as well as some confusion regarding the expectations for the final answer.

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Homework Statement


Consider a cyclinder made of linear dielectric material with uniform dipole distribution. An externally applied field ##E_{ext}## is applied in the direction parallel to the axis of the cyclinder. What are the values of the bound chrages at the surface.

Homework Equations


##\sigma_{bound} = P . \hat n##

The Attempt at a Solution


I can't seem to upload the drawing from my phone, so I will do my best to explain what I have done so far.

I drew a cylinder along the x-axis and labled each surface as follows

end of cylinder in negtive x region ##S_1##

body of cyclinder ##S_2##

end of cyclinder in positive x region ##S_3##

The electric field is going from ##S1## to ##S3##

So my values for the give surfaces are as follows

##S1=|P||1|cos(180)=-P=\sigma_b##

##S2=|P||1|cos(90)=0=\sigma_b##

##S3=|P||1|cos(0)=P=\sigma_b##

are these the value that the question is looking for or have I missed what the question is asking me for
 
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I believe your answers must be in terms of the given external electric field, ##E_{ext}##. You may need to consider as given a permittivity ##\epsilon## for the material.
 
kuruman said:
I believe your answers must be in terms of the given external electric field, ##E_{ext}##. You may need to consider as given a permittivity ##\epsilon## for the material.

Im not quite sure what you mean? Could you please expand
 
Your answer would be correct if P were a given quantity. It is not. The given quantity is ##E_{ext}## so your answer must have ##E_{ext}## in the final expression on the right side of the expression for ##\sigma_b##. However, this cannot be done unless you assume that ##\epsilon## is also a given quantity because it too must appear on the right side of the expression for ##\sigma_b##. That's my interpretation of what the questioner expects the answer to be.
 
So polaristaion can be wirtten in the form of

##P=X\epsilon E##
 
It's probably more straightforward to use ##\vec{D}=\epsilon_0\vec{E}+\vec{P}##, ##\vec{D}=\epsilon\vec{E}## and the boundary condition at the flat surface of the cylinder.
 

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