Boundary Conditions and Solutions to Differential Equations

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The discussion revolves around demonstrating that the function f(x) = A exp(σx) + B exp(-σx) is a solution to the differential equation f''(x) = (σ^2)f(x). Participants are particularly focused on the implications of the boundary condition f(-∞) = 0 and how it affects the constants A and B in the solution.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the validity of the solution under the given boundary condition and question whether B must be zero. There are attempts to clarify the reasoning behind the implications of the boundary condition on the constants in the solution.

Discussion Status

There is ongoing exploration of the reasoning required to prove that B must be zero. Some participants have provided insights into the behavior of the function as x approaches negative infinity, while others seek clarification on the sufficiency of these arguments. The discussion remains active with various interpretations being considered.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that there are two constants in the general solution but only one boundary condition provided, which raises questions about the completeness of the solution. The assumption that σ > 0 is also highlighted as a relevant constraint in the discussion.

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Homework Statement


Show that f(x) = A exp(σx) + B exp(-σx) is a solution to the
following differential equation:

f''(x) = (σ^2)f(x)

where A, B, and σ are constants. What if a boundary condition is
included that f(-∞) = 0?


Homework Equations


differential equation: f''(x) = (σ^2)f(x)
solution: f(x) = A exp(σx) + B exp(-σx)

The Attempt at a Solution


Proof -
Plugging exp(σx) and exp(-σx) into the equation f''(x) = (σ^2)f(x) gives an equality, therefore any linear combination of exp(σx) and exp(-σx) is a solution.


If the boundary condition f(-∞) = 0 is introduced, would only exp(σx) be a solution since exp(-∞)=0?
 
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cytochrome said:
If the boundary condition f(-∞) = 0 is introduced, would only exp(σx) be a solution since exp(-∞)=0?

That certainly allows B=0 to be a solution, but show also that B must be zero.
(Of course, this is assuming sigma > 0.)
 
haruspex said:
That certainly allows B=0 to be a solution, but show also that B must be zero.
(Of course, this is assuming sigma > 0.)

I'm confused about how to do this?

B must be zero because Bexp^(-∞) = 0... is that sufficient?
 
cytochrome said:
I'm confused about how to do this?

B must be zero because Bexp^(-∞) = 0... is that sufficient?

No. e-σx → +∞ as x → -∞ , if σ > 0 .
 
So if the boundary condition f(-inf) is involved, then is the answer Aexp()?

Can someone please explain boundary conditions?
 
hi cytochrome! :smile:

(try using the X2 button just above the Reply box :wink:)
cytochrome said:
So if the boundary condition f(-inf) is involved, then is the answer Aexp()?

yes, the general solution is y = Aeσx
Can someone please explain boundary conditions?

to completely solve a differential equation, you need as many boundary conditions as there are constants

here, there were two constants but only one boundary condition, so your solution still has one unknown constant
 
tiny-tim said:
hi cytochrome! :smile:

(try using the X2 button just above the Reply box :wink:)


yes, the general solution is y = Aeσx


to completely solve a differential equation, you need as many boundary conditions as there are constants

here, there were two constants but only one boundary condition, so your solution still has one unknown constant

Thanks!

So the question is for the boundary condition f(-∞), therefore the answer would just be the general solution?
 
Your very first solution was correct, it's just that the reasoning you offered was insufficient. A exp(σx) is the solution that satisfies the boundary condition. You just have to prove that B=0. What would happen to f(x) at -∞ if B were nonzero?
 
haruspex said:
Your very first solution was correct, it's just that the reasoning you offered was insufficient. A exp(σx) is the solution that satisfies the boundary condition. You just have to prove that B=0. What would happen to f(x) at -∞ if B were nonzero?

If B ≠ 0 then f(-∞) = 0 doesn't make sense since this only works if f(x) = Aexp(σx).

Is my reasoning correct?
 
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cytochrome said:
If B ≠ 0 then f(-∞) = 0 doesn't make sense since this only works if f(x) = Aexp(σx).

Is my reasoning correct?
I don't see any "reasoning" here, simply the assertion that "if B ≠ 0 then f(-∞) = 0 doesn't make sense". WHY does it not make any sense?
 
  • #11
HallsofIvy said:
I don't see any "reasoning" here, simply the assertion that "if B ≠ 0 then f(-∞) = 0 doesn't make sense". WHY does it not make any sense?

Well f(-∞) = 0 implies that Aexp(x) is the only possible answer. Bexp(-x) doesn't work because as x → -∞ then Bexp(-x) → 0

Is that a good way to show it?
 
  • #12
cytochrome said:
as x → -∞ then Bexp(-x) → 0
No it doesn't! Get that right and you're home.
 

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