Boundary conditions for displacement vector D

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The discussion revolves around the boundary conditions for the displacement vector \(\vec{D}\) in electrodynamics, specifically addressing the appearance of a negative sign in the equation \(D_1 \cdot a - D_2 \cdot a = \sigma \cdot a\) as presented in Griffiths's textbook. The scope includes theoretical reasoning and mathematical formulation related to surface integrals and charge distributions.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that the negative sign arises when evaluating the dot product, questioning how it can be introduced without this evaluation.
  • Another participant explains the use of a Gaussian "pill box" to derive the boundary condition, emphasizing that the contributions from the sides of the pill box cancel out, leading to the surface charge result.
  • A participant expresses confusion regarding the introduction of the negative sign, suggesting it should only appear after the dot product is evaluated.
  • Another participant clarifies that the negative sign is due to the surface normal vector being opposite on either side of the boundary, supporting their explanation with a mathematical expression involving the surface integral.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the introduction of the negative sign in the boundary condition equation. There is no consensus on whether the negative sign can be introduced without evaluating the dot product first.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes assumptions about the constancy of \(\vec{D}\) across the boundary and the interpretation of the surface normal vector, which may not be universally agreed upon.

Zubair Ahmad
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Griffith's writes in chapter 7 electrodynamics that D1.a - D2.a = sigma. a.
But minus sine comes when we evaluate the dot product first.
How does the minus sign occur without evaluating the dot product?
 
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You have simply to do the integral over the Gaussian "pill box" shown in Fig. 7.48 in Griffiths's book (4th edition). Making the pillbox very small, so that ##\vec{D}## on both sides of the boundary surface can be taken as constant along the area ##a##. The contributions from the four surfaces of the pill box perpendicular to the boundary surface cancel pairwise, but there may be a surface charge along the boundary surface, and then, even if you make the height of the pill box arbitrarily small, you always get a non-zero result, namely the total charge within the pill box, which is ##\sigma a##, and thus you have
$$\vec{n} \cdot (\vec{D}_1-\vec{D}_2)=\sigma.$$
Here ##\vec{D}_1## (##\vec{D}_2##) denotes the value of ##\vec{D}## when approaching the point on the boundary surface under investigation from side 1 (side 2) of the boundary surface. The minus in the above equation comes from the fact that the surface normal vector of the pill box parallel to the boundary at side 2 is just ##-\vec{n}##, where ##\vec{n}## is the direction of the surface normal vector at side 1 (see again Fig. 7.48, where in my notation ##\vec{a}=a \vec{n}##).
 
Still confusing!
 
Why? Where is your problem?
 
I'm saying that negative sign would come due to dot product.so it can't be written before it.
 
The negative sign comes, because the surface normal vector of the part of the pill box in medium 1 is ##\vec{n}## and that of the part of the pill box in medium 2 is ##-\vec{n}##. Thus the result of the surface integral over the pill box is
$$a \vec{n} \cdot \vec{D}_1 + a (-\vec{n}) \cdot \vec{D}_2 = a \vec{n} \cdot (\vec{D}_1-\vec{D}_2).$$
Look again at the figure in the book. It's really quite ovious.
 

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