Breaking the Law of Conservation of Energy

Click For Summary
SUMMARY

The discussion centers on the behavior of a basketball when dropped and its failure to reach the original height after bouncing, which does not violate the Law of Conservation of Energy. Participants identify various energy forms involved, including kinetic energy (KE), gravitational potential energy (PE), and thermal energy. The loss of energy during the bounce is attributed to conversion into thermal energy and other forms, rather than a violation of conservation laws. The conversation highlights the complexities of energy transformation in physical systems.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of kinetic energy (KE) and gravitational potential energy (PE)
  • Basic knowledge of energy transformation and conservation laws
  • Familiarity with thermal energy concepts
  • Introductory physics principles related to motion and forces
NEXT STEPS
  • Research the principles of energy conservation in elastic collisions
  • Explore the relationship between kinetic energy and thermal energy in bouncing objects
  • Study the effects of different environments (e.g., vacuum vs. air) on energy loss during bounces
  • Investigate advanced topics in thermodynamics related to energy transformation
USEFUL FOR

Students studying physics, educators teaching energy concepts, and anyone interested in understanding the principles of energy conservation and transformation in physical systems.

Skizor1337
Messages
4
Reaction score
0
When a basketball is dropped then bounces up it reaches 0 kinetic energy, but it doesn't reach original height it was dropped from. Why does this not violate the Law of Conservation of Energy?
 
Physics news on Phys.org
Skizor1337 said:
When a basketball is dropped then bounces up it reaches 0 kinetic energy, but it doesn't reach original height it was dropped from. Why does this not violate the Law of Conservation of Energy?

What are your thoughts? We need you to attempt to answer the question before we can offer tutorial help (them's the Rules -- see the link at the top of the page).

It's a fun problem -- that do you think is going on?
 
I think its because when the ball bounces back up since it has elastic potential energy. But it doesn't reach the same height it was dropped from because it loses kinetic energy and also gravitational potential.
 
Skizor1337 said:
I think its because when the ball bounces back up since it has elastic potential energy. But it doesn't reach the same height it was dropped from because it loses kinetic energy and also gravitational potential.

Um, no. What different forms of energy are involved in the ball drop and bounce. Think of other forms beyond simple PE and KE...
 
the only other i can think of is thermal but that's on a very small scale. And its not rotational even though it is a ball. I'm kinda stuck on this question
 
Skizor1337 said:
the only other i can think of is thermal but that's on a very small scale. And its not rotational even though it is a ball. I'm kinda stuck on this question

Yes there is some thermal energy change involved? What all heats up from the motion and bouncing? What else would be different if you were bouncing the ball in a vacuum?
 
Im only in Physics not AP. i haven't gotten into depth about things like that. were only in basic. But the teacher said thermal was not a huge factor
 
Do you hear when the ball hits the ground? :)

ehild
 
Last edited by a moderator:

Similar threads

Replies
2
Views
1K
  • · Replies 8 ·
Replies
8
Views
2K
  • · Replies 7 ·
Replies
7
Views
1K
  • · Replies 11 ·
Replies
11
Views
1K
  • · Replies 29 ·
Replies
29
Views
1K
  • · Replies 6 ·
Replies
6
Views
5K
  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
939
Replies
3
Views
1K
Replies
24
Views
4K
  • · Replies 9 ·
Replies
9
Views
1K