Bob S
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trini-trini said:i have a similar graph but not one including the relative permeability, though i can say it is effectively 939,014 at my density. I think it is safe to assume that a 15A current will more than drive the powder material to this permeability in this core. My scanner is down so i can't upload the graph, but is it agreed that this is the best way to go for my project?
You don't really need or intend 0.0001 tolerances do you?trini said:Ok so more tinkering has led me to this. I can't use a pot core because of my magnet shape, but this is essentially the same thing. I have employed rounded edges wherever possible to avoid flux leakage, while the M shape of each half of the core serves to direct the lines to the gap. The tube is relatively impermeable compared to the neo so it itself provides a natural 2mm gap i have to deal with on each side of the neo. I call it a MoM core, see if you can guess why ;)
trini said:ok i have updated the design.
i will use 14 car batteries in series to get to 168 V DC. The coil will be 4 cm long, 5 layers high, making the N/l ratio 5000 using 1 mm wire[(40 x 5)/0.04]. This equates to a 9.69 Ohm resistance, making the current through my coil 17.337 A.
17.337 x 168 = 2913 J/s = 174,752 J/min
the volumetric heat capacity of copper is 3.45 J/cm^3/K
Using l = 367 m, r = 0.0005 m
c = 12,661 J/K
By holding the current while i heat the powder, i will get an even stronger final B field in my magnet. I need to heat the powder to 200 C throughout but not over that, then let it cool. I can quickly heat up the metal using an IR lamp
so if i run my Current for 1 minute, this will equate to a 13.8 K rise in my coils.
I will use jumper cables to connect the coil to the batteries, and heat the powder using a magnetron. I will need to perform tests to determine heating rates of the magnetron, what would be the best way to measure the core temperature of my powder? i was thinking a digital thermometer with a probe may work, but i need something that will give me fast readouts, as i can't let the powder get even 1 degree above 200( i may just heat to about 190 to be safe, i only need to get it to 175, to work, but 200 is optimum)
trini said:... Now this implies(since I'm using DC) that i need a voltage or 564 V.
Any ideas on a DC power supply to drive this thing?
564V 2.4 A(minimum)
Please also see my edits above.trini said:Oh no this isn't for the capacitors, I'm using dc to magnetise the material, so you gave me my answer in your first paragraph lol, thanks!