Building prosthetic feet for my robot

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The discussion revolves around the construction of prosthetic feet for a robot, exploring materials, design considerations, and techniques for building a high-quality prototype. Participants share ideas and experiences related to the use of carbon fiber, fiberglass, and alternative materials.

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  • One participant suggests using carbon fiber for its high specific modulus, while another expresses confusion about its sensitivity to shocks.
  • A participant questions the appropriateness of carbon fiber, citing concerns about its fragility when subjected to impacts.
  • Some participants propose using fiberglass cloth and epoxy resin as alternatives, discussing the process of layering and molding.
  • There are inquiries about the types of epoxy to use and whether vacuum pressure is necessary during the hardening process.
  • Cost considerations are raised, with some noting that fiberglass is more readily available and affordable compared to carbon fiber.
  • One participant suggests repurposing old skis as a prototype, highlighting their existing shape and flexibility.
  • Another participant mentions the potential for using plaster as a mold material and the importance of a releasing agent for the epoxy resin.

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Participants express differing views on the suitability of carbon fiber versus fiberglass for prosthetic feet, with no consensus reached on the best material or method for construction. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the optimal approach and materials.

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Participants mention various assumptions about material properties and construction techniques, but these are not fully explored or validated within the discussion. There are also references to personal experiences and anecdotal advice that may not be universally applicable.

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I came up with the idea today of using a prosthetic feet for my robot. The problem is that hardly anyone sells them online. What materials would I use to build one? The size is a regular shoe size.
Something that looks like this. I'd like to make a very good quality one.

Thanks in advance
 

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Nidum said:
I'm confused on why they are made of carbon fiber. Isn't Carbon fiber supposed to be very sensitive to shocks?
 
Define "sensitive to shock".
Main reason CF is used for prosthetics is because it has a high specific modulus (stiffness to weight).
 
Someone told me that if you were to hit carbon fiber with a hammer it would break. Wouldn't each step be like a hammer hit?
 
You could try layers of fiberglass cloth and impregnate that with epoxy resin. Of course you with have to design and build a mold. Then cut the finished product to size. My understanding is you could cut it with an ordinary band saw, (I would ware protective clothing and a face mask with air filtration.) It would be the same process as making it out of carbon fiber. I haven't worked with either material but it is available at most hardware stores. I contemplated building a wooden boat once and was told I should skin it with a fiberglass shell.
 
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gjonesy said:
You could try layers of fiberglass cloth and impregnate that with epoxy resin. Of course you with have to design and build a mold. Then cut the finished product to size. My understanding is you could cut it with an ordinary band saw, (I would ware protective clothing and a face mask with air filtration.) It would be the same process as making it out of carbon fiber. I haven't worked with either material but it is available at most hardware stores. I contemplated building a wooden boat once and was told I should skin it with a fiberglass shell.
Interesting, do you know what kind of epoxy I would use? And would I need to create vacuum pressure on the piece during hardening? Also why use fiberglass cloth instead of carbon fiber cloth?
 
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To answer your first question...no I've never worked with it but id assume they would sell it in the same section as the fiberglass cloth. As far as vacuum forming I am sure the answer is no. You would just have to build a mold of a foot that you could break away, layer it with fiber cloth to desired thickness. You would probably have to use a puddy knife to smooth out the layers in the mold as you added them but then just break the mold after it dries. Smooth out or cut off the rough edges
 
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kolleamm said:
Also why use fiberglass cloth instead of carbon fiber cloth?

Cost...i know you can buy enough to cover a boat fairly reasonably. I have no idea where you could get carbon fiber or what to use as a hardener. You can get fiberglass anywhere.
 
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gjonesy said:
Cost...i know you can buy enough to cover a boat fairly reasonably. I have no idea where you could get carbon fiber or what to use as a hardener. You can get fiberglass anywhere.
Thank you! I will try to find some tutorials on YouTube.
 
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kolleamm said:
Thank you! I will try to find some tutorials on YouTube.
An idea to make a prototype is to get a pair of old skis, cross country or downhill, and cut and assemble to your desire.
There already is a curved pointy bit at the front for the toe part.
It is laminated and flexible.

I think it might be possible to heat and press between a mold, though you would have to investigate that aspect.

It could be made to look more like this,
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kolleamm said:
Thank you! I will try to find some tutorials on YouTube.

You are welcome, BTW still toying with the idea of building a boat and I am also interested in learning to work with fiberglass also...so if you find something interesting or a good educational tutorial on working with the stuff let me know. I do wood work as a hobby and the boat would be a cool project. As far as mold material id say plaster would be your best bet. Unless the make a releasing agent that you could coat your mold with or a material that epoxy resin wouldn't adhere to.

Good luck
 
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256bits said:
An idea to make a prototype is to get a pair of old skis, cross country or downhill, and cut and assemble to your desire.
There already is a curved pointy bit at the front for the toe part.
It is laminated and flexible.

I think it might be possible to heat and press between a mold, though you would have to investigate that aspect.

It could be made to look more like this,
th?&id=OIP.M7c74932ababd824e331fb453ceb1d1a3H0&w=264&h=171&c=0&pid=1.9&rs=0&p=0&r=0.jpg
That's a brilliant idea! I will seriously consider it. Thank you!
 
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gjonesy said:
You are welcome, BTW still toying with the idea of building a boat and I am also interested in learning to work with fiberglass also...so if you find something interesting or a good educational tutorial on working with the stuff let me know. I do wood work as a hobby and the boat would be a cool project. As far as mold material id say plaster would be your best bet. Unless the make a releasing agent that you could coat your mold with or a material that epoxy resin wouldn't adhere to.

Good luck
Sure thing! I will post some links on here to the best videos I can find. I remember watching one for carbon fiber. It really wasn't all that complicated. I'm curious though why the strength is so high in fiber glass and CF.
 

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