Bullet and Can Collision: Determining Bullet Speed After Impact

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves a bullet colliding with a tin can and aims to determine the bullet's speed after passing through the can. The context is centered around momentum conservation and the effects of the collision on the bullet's speed.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the conservation of momentum and the effects of the bullet passing through the can. Questions arise about the nature of the collisions and the energy lost during the process.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different aspects of the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the nature of the collisions and the implications of multiple impacts, but no consensus has been reached on the approach to take.

Contextual Notes

There are uncertainties regarding the assumptions about the collisions being elastic or inelastic, as well as the distribution of energy loss during the bullet's passage through the can.

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Homework Statement


A 7g bullet moving horizontally at 200 m/s strikes and passes through a 150 g tin can sitting on a post. Just after impact, the can has a horizontal speed of 180 cm/s. What the bullet's speed after leaving the can? ANSWER = 161 m/s

Homework Equations



7g = .007 kg
150 g = .15 kg
180 cm/s = 1.8 m/s

The Attempt at a Solution


momentum = m1 x v1 + m2 x v2
=.007kg (200 m/s) + .15kg (0)
=1.4 kg m/s

conversation of momentum--
1.4 kg m/s = 1.4 kg m/s
1.4 = (m1+m2) v
1.4 = (.007 + .15) v
v= 8.92

obviously very wrong :P
 
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Think, what happens with the bullet after it hits the can? The wall of a can is very thin...

ehild
 
Well it slows down, but only slightly.

But I can't figure out how to show that in a formula...
 
...anyone there?
 
How many times hits the bullet the wall of the can when it flies through it?

ehild
 
Twice.
 
So, there are two impacts, and neither of them can be considered inelastic collision as the bullet leaves the can: the bullet and can have different velocities. Neither are they elastic collisions. Some part of the kinetic energy of the bullet is lost while it goes through the wall of the can. I am not sure if it can be assumed that this loss of energy is the same at both impacts or the force exerted by the walls are the same in both cases. Haven't you got any hint from your teacher?

ehild
 

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