Buyoancy Question the day before the final

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The discussion revolves around a buoyancy problem involving a beaker filled with water. Participants are exploring the conditions under which the beaker floats or sinks based on its mass and the volume of water it displaces. The subject area is fluid mechanics, specifically buoyancy and density calculations.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants are attempting to determine the maximum volume of water the beaker can displace and its implications for buoyancy. Questions arise about the mass of the beaker when it starts to sink and the relationship between the volume of water displaced and the density of the beaker.

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The discussion includes various attempts to calculate the displaced water volume and the mass of the beaker. Some participants are questioning the assumptions made about the volume and density, while others are clarifying the calculations involved. There is no explicit consensus, but several productive lines of reasoning are being explored.

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Participants are working under the pressure of an impending final exam, which may influence the urgency and clarity of their contributions. There is a mix of correct and incorrect reasoning being discussed, particularly regarding the calculations of mass and volume.

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You place a beaker partly filled with water, into a sink. The beaker itself has a mass of 390grams and an interior volume of 500 cm^2. You now start to fill the sink with water and you f ind that if the beaker is less than half full, it floats but it is more than half full it sinks to the bottom.

What is the density of the glass making up the beaker?

The answer is 2786 kg/m^3

How do you do this? argh i got my final tomorrow =S

Homework Statement



mass of beaker=0.39 kg
density of water is 1000 kg/m^3
interior volume of beaker is 500 cm^2

Homework Equations



Fb= density*g* Volume displaced

The Attempt at a Solution


i don't know how to do this AT ALL!
 
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What is the maximum water volume the beaker can displace?

What is its mass (including water inside) if it starts to sink?
 
max water the beaker can displace is
mg= density*gravity*volume
0.390 = 1000 x volume
volume=3.9*10^-4

Mass (including water) when it starts to sink...
0.5*density*volume
0.5*1000*5*10^-4=0.25 kg
 
addnecro said:
max water the beaker can displace is
mg= density*gravity*volume

No. Think - if you put 500 mL beaker in water up to the rim, how much water was displaced?
 
ummm 5x10^-4 m^3
 
Yes. m3 is not the easiest unit to work with in this case, but it is correct (just inconvenient).

What mass of water was displaced?

If beaker starts to sink, what does it tell about its mass?
 
is the mass of water displaced 0.5*density of water*volume of beacker..
as the beaker starts to sink, it tells me that the mass will is increasing?
 
addnecro said:
is the mass of water displaced 0.5*density of water*volume of beacker..

Why 0.5?

as the beaker starts to sink, it tells me that the mass will is increasing?

:bugeye:
 
haha i meant as the beaker starts to sink, we know that the mass of the water inside the beaker is making it sink to the bottom.
It is 0.5 because it's half the volume of the beaker =)
 
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V(outer voume of beaker)*g*1000 = v/2(v=inner volume)*g*1000 + m(m=mass of beaker)*g


v=500cm^3 = 500*10^-6 m^3
g=10m/s^2
m=390gm=.39kg

then density = mass of beaker / volume of beaker


volume of beaker = V-v
 
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Thanks
 
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did u get it?
 
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ok ur welcome
 

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