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Cal3 cyliderical spherical coords

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Homework Statement


find the volume between the cone z=√(x^2+y^2), and the plane z=14+x, above the disk x^2+y^2≤1, for the exact number


Homework Equations


r^2=x^2+y^2;


The Attempt at a Solution


I found x=z, for x^2+y^2≤1, for solve r^2≤1, so r≤1, or r≥-1. for θ,from0 to 2pi, but I don't know what range for z, and what equation I shoud use for f(x,y), just √(x^2+y^2)?
thanks.
 

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I think you are going to need to come down firmly on the side of working with either Cartesian or cylindrical coordinates, because this mixture of systems is creating unnecessary confusion.

You have an "apex-down" cone (the apex at ( 0, 0 ) ) opening "upward" in the positive z-direction being intersected by an oblique plane. You will find it easier to deal with this if you express the cone as z = f(r) (which will be the "floor" of your volume) and z = g( r, theta ) [what is 14 + x in polar coordinates?] (which is the "ceiling" of your volume).

You can now get an integrand function for the "height" of the volume as a function of r and theta . You will be integrating over 0 ≤ r ≤ 1 and you have the correct interval for theta. Be sure to use the infinitesimal volume elements for cylindrical coordinates. This will not be too hard to set up (it's a bit more work to actually integrate...).
 
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I think you are going to need to come down firmly on the side of working with either Cartesian or cylindrical coordinates, because this mixture of systems is creating unnecessary confusion.

You have an "apex-down" cone (the apex at ( 0, 0 ) ) opening "upward" in the positive z-direction being intersected by an oblique plane. You will find it easier to deal with this if you express the cone as z = f(r) (which will be the "floor" of your volume) and z = g( r, theta ) [what is 14 + x in polar coordinates?] (which is the "ceiling" of your volume).

You can now get an integrand function for the "height" of the volume as a function of r and theta . You will be integrating over 0 ≤ r ≤ 1 and you have the correct interval for theta. Be sure to use the infinitesimal volume elements for cylindrical coordinates. This will not be too hard to set up (it's a bit more work to actually integrate...).

thanks.
but i still not understand the range for z, and that function i should use for f(x,y)which be intefrated. thanks.
 
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I mean for z I used 14+x, and r; for r, I used 0 and 1; for theta, i use 0 and 2pi? if those are all correct, how can i get exact number? i should have x in final answer. Thanks
 
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In polar coordinates (which are two of the three coordinates in the cylindrical system),
[itex] z = 14 + r \cos \theta[/itex] . So the height of the enclosed volume is [itex] (14 + r \cos \theta ) - r [/itex] , since the equation for the nappe of the cone above the xy-plane is just z = r .
 

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