Calc Volumes of Rotation Bodies | x-axis & 7x-x^2

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The discussion focuses on calculating the volumes of rotation bodies formed by the area bounded by the x-axis and the curve \(7x - x^2\) when rotated around the x-axis and y-axis. The correct formulas for the volumes are derived using the disk method for \(V_x\) and the shell method for \(V_y\). The user initially misapplied the shell method by omitting the radius of the shell, which led to confusion. After clarification, the user successfully corrected their approach and obtained the correct volume.

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Calculate the volumes of the rotation bodies which arises when the area D in the xy-plane bounded by x-axis and curve $$7x-x^2$$may rotate around x- respective y-axes.
I will calculate $$V_x$$ and $$V_y$$ I start to get crit point $$x_1=0$$ and $$x_2=7$$
rotate on y-axe:
$$2\pi\int_a^bf(x)dx$$
so we get $$2\pi[\frac{7x^2}{2}-\frac{x^3}{3}]_0^7$$ $$V_y=\frac{2\pi*343}{6}$$
rotate on x axe:
$$\pi\int_a^bf(x)^2dx$$
so we start with:$$(7x-x^2)^2=49x^2-14x^3+x^4$$ so we get $$[\frac{49x^3}{3}-\frac{14x^4}{4}+\frac{x^5}{5}]_0^7$$ that means $$V_x=\frac{16087\pi}{30}$$ What I am doing wrong?

(Sorry for bad english.)
 
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First , why do you think you are doing something wrong ?
 
I was going to ask the same thing...are you expecting you should get the same volume with a different axis of rotation? This in only true with the axes you are given for a particular family of parabolas, and this one is not in that family. See this topic:

http://www.mathhelpboards.com/f35/problem-week-37-december-10th-2012-a-2714/

I believe that problem was inspired by a problem I helped you with in the past. :cool:

Your formula for the shell method (revolving about the $y$-axis) is missing the radius of the shell. Your other formula for the disk method (revolving about the $x$-axis) is correct.
 
MarkFL said:
I was going to ask the same thing...are you expecting you should get the same volume with a different axis of rotation? This in only true with the axes you are given for a particular family of parabolas, and this one is not in that family. See this topic:

http://www.mathhelpboards.com/f35/problem-week-37-december-10th-2012-a-2714/

I believe that problem was inspired by a problem I helped you with in the past. :cool:

Your formula for the shell method (revolving about the $y$-axis) is missing the radius of the shell. Your other formula for the disk method (revolving about the $x$-axis) is correct.
Well its a programe we put our answer on so we see if we get correct or wrong:P what do you mean missing the radius of the shell?
 
Petrus said:
...what do you mean missing the radius of the shell?

The volume of an arbitrary shell is:

$$dV=2\pi rh\,dx$$

where:

$$h=f(x)$$

You also need to write $r$ in terms of $x$. Do you see how your formula is missing the radius?
 
MarkFL said:
The volume of an arbitrary shell is:

$$dV=2\pi rh\,dx$$

where:

$$h=f(x)$$

You also need to write $r$ in terms of $x$. Do you see how your formula is missing the radius?
Yes I do, I did think wrong when I try use my brain(and some memory) for the formula. $$2\pi\int_0^7x(7x-x^2)$$ is this correct now?Edit: got correct answer! Thanks MarkFL and ZaidAylafey!:)
 
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