Calcium Carbonate -> Calcium Oxide, but only getting Hydroxide. Ideas?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the unexpected formation of Calcium Hydroxide instead of Calcium Oxide during the calcination of Calcium Carbonate. Participants explore the testing methods used to verify the presence of Calcium Carbonate and the conditions under which the calcination was performed, including temperature and gas purging considerations.

Discussion Character

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant reports that after heating Calcium Carbonate at 920°C, they ended up with Calcium Hydroxide, questioning if a nitrogen or argon gas purge is necessary.
  • Another participant challenges the validity of the tests conducted, noting that no gas was produced when Calcium Carbonate was added to vinegar, suggesting that the initial material may not have been Calcium Carbonate.
  • There is a discussion about the implications of mixing the powder with water, where one participant indicates that both Calcium Oxide and Calcium Hydroxide would produce a milky mixture, but this does not confirm the identity of the powder.
  • Questions arise regarding the amount of powder and water used in the tests, with requests for clarification on the quantities involved.
  • One participant suggests that the calcination temperature may not have been sufficient, referencing a minimum temperature of 825°C for the decomposition of Calcium Carbonate, and argues that a gas purge is unnecessary for this process.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the adequacy of the tests performed and the conditions for successful calcination. There is no consensus on whether the initial material was indeed Calcium Carbonate or if the calcination was performed correctly.

Contextual Notes

Limitations in the discussion include uncertainty about the initial material's identity, the adequacy of the heating process, and the specific amounts of reactants used in the tests.

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I was trying to calcine some CaCO3 (Calcium Carbonate), but ended up with Calcium Hydroxide.

To test if I had Calcium Carbonate I added it to some vinegar, no gas was produced. I then mixed in a small amount of the powder with a large amount of water and passed CO2 through it, and it became a milky white which led me to believe I have Calcium Hydroxide. I also tried added the final powder to water, which did not heat up.

I heated up my CaCO3 in a laboratory furnace (Electric) at roughly 920°C for 30 minutes which left me with my current product.

Do I need to have a nitrogen/argon gas purge of some sort??

Any ideas are appreciated! Thanks!
 
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You are doing strange tests and drawing strange conclusions.

Voltux said:
To test if I had Calcium Carbonate I added it to some vinegar, no gas was produced.

Some gas should be produced, so this test - if anything - shows you didn't have a calcium carbonate. I wonder if you didn't mean you were testing for oxide?

I then mixed in a small amount of the powder with a large amount of water and passed CO2 through it, and it became a milky white which led me to believe I have Calcium Hydroxide.

Sorry, no idea what you are trying to test for. Assuming the powder was CaO, after mixing it with water it became Ca(OH)2. It doesn't mean your powder WAS calcium hydroxide.


I also tried added the final powder to water, which did not heat up.

How much powder, how much water?
 
You are doing strange tests and drawing strange conclusions.



Some gas should be produced, so this test - if anything - shows you didn't have a calcium carbonate. I wonder if you didn't mean you were testing for oxide?

I was testing with vinegar to verify a change had taken place, and that it was heated long enough. This would only show that I did not have a carbonate.



Sorry, no idea what you are trying to test for. Assuming the powder was CaO, after mixing it with water it became Ca(OH)2. It doesn't mean your powder WAS calcium hydroxide.
I suppose you're right that both CaO, and Ca(OH)2 would form a milky white mixture, but when I added the powder to water (just enough water to cover the powder ~20-50ml) there was absolutely no change in temperature as measured with an IR thermometer and by touch.




How much powder, how much water?

20-50ml, just enough to cover the powder.
 
Voltux said:
I was testing with vinegar to verify a change had taken place, and that it was heated long enough. This would only show that I did not have a carbonate.

Have you checked that the carbonate before roasting was reacting with the acid?

20-50ml, just enough to cover the powder.

How much powder? A pinch, or so much that the water was only a thin layer on the surface?
 
I wonder if you got the CaCO3 hot enough. Wikipedia gives the minimum temperature as 825C.

You certainly don't need a gas purge. Cement making isn't "high tech" chemistry! Heating a 10mm diameter limestone chip directly with a roaring bunsen burner flame for a couple of minutes should work. But a bunsen flame is about 1500C, not 920C.
 

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