Calcuating energy from Air Tank

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The discussion revolves around calculating the amount of work or energy stored in an air tank associated with an air compressor. Participants explore the theoretical and practical aspects of this calculation, including the necessary variables and equations involved.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about the method to calculate the energy stored in an air tank, providing specific details about the compressor's specifications.
  • Another participant suggests that the calculation is possible and outlines steps including determining the mass of air, using the gas constant, and calculating specific heat.
  • A further response reiterates the need to find the mass of air at the final temperature and pressure, and requests clarification on the variables needed for this calculation.
  • Participants discuss the importance of distinguishing between the temperature of the air inside the tank and the ambient temperature when calculating energy.
  • There is a mention of using specific equations involving mass, gas constant, pressure, temperature, and volume to calculate specific heat and energy.
  • A later reply asks if the original poster has access to a thermodynamics book, implying that further reading may be beneficial.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that the energy can be calculated, but there is no consensus on the specific methods or equations to use, and some details remain unclear.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty regarding the correct application of equations and the definitions of certain variables, such as whether to use the temperature of the air inside the tank or the ambient temperature.

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Individuals interested in thermodynamics, engineering applications related to air compressors, or those seeking to understand energy calculations in gas systems may find this discussion useful.

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Hi,

I was working with my Air compressor today and was wondering if there is a way to calculate the amount of work or energy that is stored within a air tank? The air compressor is a 2.5hp, 112L/m 120Psi and volumes is 40L.

From these details can the work be calculated or is more information required.

Any guidance would be great

Thanks
 
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Yes, it can be calculated.

First you need to determine the mass of the air stored in the tank at the final temperature and pressure of the air in the tank.

Second use the gas constant for air at standard conditions. R = 287 J/(kg-K) (be careful with standard conditions as they are not always standard)

Next calculate the Specific Heat at Constant Volume using the above values. Gamma for air is 1.4

Next the energy in joules per kilogram can be calculate by multiplying the Specific Heat at Constant Volume by the temperature of the air.

Lastly, the total energy is the above energy times the mass of air. The ending units will be Joules.
 
This sounds easier then it looks, so please bare with me on this explanation

CFDFEAGURU said:
Yes, it can be calculated.

First you need to determine the mass of the air stored in the tank at the final temperature and pressure of the air in the tank.

So I have taken real measurements off the compressor which were
Temperature = 33°C
Pressure = 120Psi

Can you please explain in a little more detail how to calculate the Mass, and what variables are required?


CFDFEAGURU said:
Second use the gas constant for air at standard conditions. R = 287 J/(kg-K) (be careful with standard conditions as they are not always standard)

Next calculate the Specific Heat at Constant Volume using the above values. Gamma for air is 1.4
The air tank volume = 40 litres
Temperature = 33°C
Pressure = 120Psi
Gamma = 1.4
gas constant = R = 287 J/(kg-K)

[itex]Specific heat = Mass \times Gas Constant \times Pressure \times Temperature \times Volume^{gamma}[/itex]

Am I on the correct path with the equation

CFDFEAGURU said:
Next the energy in joules per kilogram can be calculate by multiplying the Specific Heat at Constant Volume by the temperature of the air.

Lastly, the total energy is the above energy times the mass of air. The ending units will be Joules.

Do you mean the temperature of the air inside the tank or ambient temperature which was 29°C

[itex]Energy (J/kg) = Specific Heat \times Air temp[/itex]

[itex]Joules = Energy \times Mass[/itex]

Are the explanation correct for the comments which you have made.

Thanks for your time with this
 
Do you have access to a thermodynamics book?
 

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