Calculate Acceleration using relative distances

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To calculate the acceleration of the first car using relative distances from the second car, one must differentiate the relative distances provided every 0.01 seconds to obtain velocity and acceleration. The speed of the first car must include the speed of the second car, as they are moving in the same direction, which requires adding the x-component of the second car's velocity to the relative distance change. It is crucial to ensure the correct application of signs when determining speed, especially if the second car is faster than the first. The components of the second car's velocity must be accurately derived from its total speed and the direction of the first car for precise calculations. Understanding these relationships is essential for obtaining correct results in this scenario.
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Homework Statement


There are two cars traveling in a same direction. The Second car has a camera mounted on it and has ability to give relative X and Y (in meters) distance of first car with respect to it. Given the Speed of Second car , Calculate the Speed and Acceleration of first car. The First car gives relative x and y distances for every 0.01 seconds.

Homework Equations


Differentiation of distance gives velocity and double differentiation of distance gives me acceleration

The Attempt at a Solution


Vx = (x2-x1)/(t2-t1) ; t2-t1 is 0.01 seconds
; x2 is the X distance at second time instant and x1 is at first time instant
Vy = (y2-y1)/(t2-t1)

Speed = Sqrt(Vx^2 + Vy^2)

Ax = (Vx2 – Vx1)/ (t2-t1)

Ay = (Vy2 – Vy1)/ (t2-t1) I am not considering the Speed of Second vehicle at all... I think that's where I am getting wrong results. As camera gives me the relative x and y , and since camera itself is moving , Do I need to add the Speed to Vx and then compute acceleration >?
 
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Since they are traveling in the same direction, you can just add the speed of the first car to the speed of the second car. If they were traveling in different directions, then you would have to be more careful and add up the components of velocity.
 
Also, make sure your signs are right for the speed. If the second car is going faster than the first car, then you should subtract the relative speed of the first car from the speed of the second car.
 
Thanks NFuller for clarifying it.

Let me explain what I understood ...

let Vs be the speed of Second car which has camera mounted . Vs = sqrt(Vsx2 + Vsy2 )

For two time instants , 0.01 second and 0.02 Second ... I get relative (x1,y1) and (x2,y2) as (5.2,0.4) and (6.8,0.5) in meters

Speed of First vehicle in X direction is Vsx + (x2-x1)/0.01 (or) Since they are traveling in straight direction , can i say Vs+ (x2-x1)/0.01 ??
 
Ash_Sdr said:
Vsx + (x2-x1)/0.01
This is correct, since you are adding the x component of the second car's velocity to the x component of the first car's velocity.
Ash_Sdr said:
Vs+ (x2-x1)/0.01
This is incorrect, since you are adding the total speed of the second car (which contains both x and y dependence) to only the x component of the first car's velocity.

The trick here is finding the components of velocity ##V_{x}## and ##V_{y}## of the second car using the speed of the second car and the direction of the first car.
 
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