Calculate attractive force between Cu2+ and O2- ions.

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To calculate the attractive force between Cu2+ and O2- ions in CuO with a separation of 200 pm, the appropriate formula is Coulomb's law, F = ke(|q1q2|)/r². The charges of the ions are determined as q1 = 3.204 × 10^-19 C for Cu2+ and q2 = -3.204 × 10^-19 C for O2-. Substituting these values into the equation yields a force of 2.307 × 10^-8 N. This calculation confirms the correct approach to finding the attractive force between the ions.
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Homework Statement


Calculate the attractive force between a pair of Cu2+ and O2- ions in the ceramic CuO that has an interatomic separation of 200pm.


Homework Equations


E_A= -\frac{(z_1\cdot e)(z_2\cdot e)}{4\pi\cdot\epsilon_o\cdot r}
Where z_1 and z_2 are the valences of the two ion types, e is the charge of an electron (1.602 * 10^-19 C), epsilon_o is the permittivity of a vacuum (8.85*10^-12 F/m), and r is the distance between the two ions.

E_n=\frac{m\cdot e^4 \cdot z^2}{2n^2 \cdot \hbar^2}
Where m= mass of electron, z= atomic number, e= charge of an electron, n is the energy level.


The Attempt at a Solution


The problem is that I don't know how to find z_1 and z_2. Do I use E_n=\frac{m\cdot e^4 \cdot z^2}{2n^2 \cdot \hbar^2} to find the energy in the valence electrons? The problem is that I don't know how to use that equation because when I plug in what I think I should for the variables it gives me an answer with units all wrong... Here's an example from another problem where I tried to use that equation...

plugging in 1 for n, 3 for z, 9.11*10^-31 kg for m, -1.602*10^-19 Coulombs for e, and 1.054572×10^-34 J*s for h, we get
E_1= ((9.11*10^-31 kg))*((-1.602*10^-19 C)^4)*(3^2)/(2(1.054572×10^-34 J s)^2) = 2.428×10^-37 s^6A^4/(kg m^4) (second to the 6 amperes to the fourth per kilogram meter to the fourth).


So what to do?
 
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Why are you writing these formulas for energies?
The problem asks to calculate the attractive force.
The charges of each ion are given in the problem.
 
nasu said:
Why are you writing these formulas for energies?
The problem asks to calculate the attractive force.
The charges of each ion are given in the problem.

Well I don't know the force equation, my teacher only gave us the equation for bonding energy...
Perhaps since energy=force*distance we can find force by dividing our energy equation by some distance?


I'm still stuck but I see now that z_1= 2 and z_2=-2.

Any more help?
 
nasu said:
See Coulomb's law. For example, here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coulomb's_law

What class is this? Chemistry?

The equation F= ke(|q1q2|)/r2 looks good.

So if I plug in 3.204 × 10^-19 coulombs for q1 and -3.204 × 10^-19 coulombs for q2 (because O2- has a net charge equal to -2 times the charge of an electron and Cu2+ has a net charge equal to twice the charge of an electron), then I get

2.307*10-8 N of force. Does that seem right?
 
Yes, it looks OK.
 
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