Calculate Bullets Per Minute for Machine Gun and Man

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The discussion revolves around a two-part physics problem involving a machine gun firing bullets into a block on a frictionless tabletop. The first part involves calculating the speed of the block after a certain number of bullets are fired, while the second part seeks to determine the maximum number of bullets a man can fire per minute given a specific force exerted against the gun.

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  • The original poster attempts to relate the second part of the problem to the first, expressing uncertainty about how to calculate bullets per minute without a clear equation. They mention the need to convert velocity units and explore the relationship between force, mass, and velocity.
  • Some participants suggest using conservation of momentum and provide equations related to force and momentum, while others question the clarity of the analysis for the second part.
  • One participant raises a point about the need for the muzzle velocity in the calculations.

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Participants have provided various equations and insights into the problem, with some guidance offered on the conservation of momentum and force relationships. However, there is no explicit consensus on the correct approach for the second part, and the discussion remains open with differing interpretations and calculations being explored.

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There is mention of the need to consider the peak force applied during firing, which may exceed the average force of 180 N, indicating potential constraints in the problem setup. Additionally, the original poster's calculations and assumptions are questioned, highlighting areas of uncertainty.

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This was a two part question, the first part I was able to calculate.

Question Part 1:
A machine gun fires a stream of bullets into a block that is free to move on a horizontal frictionless tabletop. Each bullet has mass 66 grams; their speed is 930 m/sec, and the block a mass of 7.36 kg. After 15 bullets, the speed of the block is?

Calculation Part 1:
[tex]\frac{(0.066 kg * 15 bullets)}{(0.066 kg * 15 bullets) + 7.36 kg}=110.263 m/sec[/tex]

Question Part 2:
If a man in the previous statement can exert an average force of 180 N against the gun, determine the maximum number of bullets he can fire per minute.

Attempt to Calculate:
I am unsure of how I would go about this. I attempted to think of it as a reverse of the previous question, but what didn't work out was getting bullets per minute without figuring out a basic equation then using sample bullets/minute numbers to see where the breaking point of 0 m/sec is. Also, I kept in mind the need to change the velocity of m/sec to m/min if needed.

The equation I attempted to use was:
[tex]V_{gun+man}=\frac{m_{bullet}*numberofbullets}{(m_{bullet}*numberofbullets)+M_{man}}v_{bullet}[/tex]

Any help with where to start?
 
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it is basically just a simple problem of conservation of momentum.
 
You have the "force equation": F*t=m*v
the total momentum during a minute is m*v*k, where k is the number of bullets per minute.
 
Kurret said:
You have the "force equation": F*t=m*v
the total momentum during a minute is m*v*k, where k is the number of bullets per minute.


So I get...

[tex]F \times t=m \times v[/tex]

[tex]F \times t=m \times v \times k[/tex]

[tex]\frac{F \times t}{m \times v}=k; k=bullets/min[/tex]

[tex]\frac{180 N \times 60 sec}{0.066 kg \times 930 m/sec}=175.953 bullets/sec[/tex]


Thank you both.
 
blue5t1053 said:
So I get...

[tex]F \times t=m \times v[/tex]

[tex]F \times t=m \times v \times k[/tex]

[tex]\frac{F \times t}{m \times v}=k; k=bullets/min[/tex]

[tex]\frac{180 N \times 60 sec}{0.066 kg \times 930 m/sec}=175.953 bullets/sec[/tex]Thank you both.

.953?
Never knew Bullets went to the target in fractions.!
 
ever heard of splinters/shotguns/shells
 
Part 1 is correct, although your expression is not correct. You need the muzzle velocity in there:

[tex]m_{bullet}v_{muzzle} N_{bullets} = \Delta P = (M_{block} + m_{bullet}N_{bullets}) v_{block/bullets}[/tex]

The analysis for Part 2 is not clear.Since the force applied by the gun to the shooter is the time rate of change of momentum of the gun/bullet system F = dp/dt:

[tex]F = \frac{dm}{dt}v_{muzzle}[/tex]

[tex]\frac{dm}{dt} = F/v = 180/930 = .194 \text{kg/sec}[/tex]

Therefore, the number of bullets per second is .194/.066 = 2.94 or 176 bullets/minute, but this is only if you want to provide an average force of 180 N. The actual peak force that must be applied will be greater than this, so actually firing this number of bullets will cause the force on the shooter to exceed 180N.

AM
 
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