Calculate energy and momentum of a hydrogen atom in a photon emission transition

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The discussion revolves around calculating the recoil energy and velocity of a hydrogen atom during a photon emission transition from n=4 to n=1. Participants are exploring concepts related to energy and momentum in the context of atomic transitions and photon interactions.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster attempts to calculate the energy of the emitted photon and its momentum, questioning the relevance of the small momentum value. Other participants suggest considering conservation laws and relate the problem to a collision scenario involving the hydrogen atom and the photon.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, with some guidance provided regarding conservation laws. The original poster has made calculations for the hydrogen atom's velocity and recoil energy, seeking validation of their approach. There is no explicit consensus on the correctness of the solution yet.

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Participants are discussing the implications of momentum conservation in a two-object system, with specific focus on the hydrogen atom and emitted photon. The calculations are based on the mass of the hydrogen atom and the momentum derived from the emitted photon.

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Homework Statement

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Calculate the recoil energy and velocity of a hydrogen atom in a transition from n=4 to n=1 in which a photon is emitted



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I started with calculating the energy of the emitten photon.
E_{photon}= \frac{-16.6 eV}{n^2}-\frac{-13.6 eV}{n^2}=\frac{-13.6}{16}+13.6= 12.75 eV



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having calculated the energy of the emitted photon i can calculate its momentum
p= \frac{E_{photon}}{c}=\frac{2.04\cdot10^{-18}}{3\cdot10^8}=6.81\cdot10^{-27}\frac{kg\cdot m}{s}

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can this be relevant? can the emitted photons momentum be so small? how to solve this problem?
 
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Yes, the photon's momentum is really that small.

Has your class discussed any conservation laws lately? You can think of this as a collision-like problem involving the hydrogen atom and the photon.
 
ah okej,i might have mixed up the velocity with the momentum but know i know
Yes we had classes in conservation laws and i remember from it that in an isolated system with only two objects, the change in momentum of one object must be equal and opposite to the change in momentum of the other object so that could mean that momentum of the photon is the same as the momentum of the hydrogen atom is that right?

in that case non-relativistic momentum for the hydrogen atom will be
p= m\cdot v where m-the hydrogen atom mass, v-its velocity

from this i can calculate the velocity of the hydrogen atom
v=\frac{p}{m}= \frac{6.81\cdot 10^{-27}}{1.67\cdot 10^{-27}} = 4.078\frac{m}{s}

recoil energy of the hydrogen atom will be
E_{recoil}= \frac{mv^2}{2}=\frac{1.67\cdot10^{-27}\cdot(4.078)^2}{2}=1.39\cdot10^{-26} J

is that a correct solution?
 
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Looks good!

Sorry for not replying sooner, somehow I missed the notification that you had posted again.
 
thank you!;)
 

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