A hydrogen atom transitions from n= 5 state to the ground state

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The discussion revolves around a hydrogen atom transitioning from the n=5 state to the ground state, focusing on the energy of the emitted photon and the momentum ratio between the photon and an electron with equivalent kinetic energy.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore the calculation of the energy of the emitted photon and question the sign of the energy difference. There is also discussion regarding the momentum calculations for both the photon and the electron.

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Participants are actively questioning the sign of the energy result and discussing the implications of using different units for calculations. Some guidance has been offered regarding the treatment of signs in the formulas.

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There is a mention of the potential confusion arising from the sign of the energy difference in photon emission versus absorption, as well as the choice of units for calculations.

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Homework Statement


A hydrogen atom transitions from ni= 5 state down to the ground state.
a) What is the energy of photon emitted from the transition of the hydrogen atom?
b) What is the ratio of the momentum of the emitted photon to the momentum of an electron which possesses the same kinetic energy as that of the photon. That is calculate pe/pγ.

Homework Equations


ΔEphoton = Ef - Ei

En= -13.6 eV / (n)2

The Attempt at a Solution



a)
ΔEphoton = E1 - E5
ΔEphoton = -13.6 eV [1/(1)2 - 1/(5)2] = - 13.0 eV = - 2.08 x 10 -18 J (shouldn't the answer here be positive?)

b)
Momentum of electron
Pelectron = √(2 ⋅ m ⋅ Ephoton)
Pelectron = √(2 ⋅ 9.11 x 10-31 ⋅ 2.08 x 10 -18)
Pelectron = 1.95 x 10-24

Momentum of photon
Pphoton = h /λ = Ephoton / c = (2.08 x 10-18) / (3.00 x 108)= 6.97 x 10-27

Ratio

Pelectron / Pphoton = 1.95 x 10-24 / 6.97 x 10-27 = 280
 
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The answer should be positive. Your initial formula gives the correct sign if you absorb a photon.

Working with eV everywhere would make calculations easier, but working with SI units is possible as well, of course.
 
mfb said:
The answer should be positive. Your initial formula gives the correct sign if you absorb a photon.

Working with eV everywhere would make calculations easier, but working with SI units is possible as well, of course.

So I'm using the wrong formula for photon emission?
 
You can just change the sign at the end. Or use the absolute value of the energy difference, then it works in both cases.
Signs should come from understanding the situation. Good if the formulas also have the correct sign, but you should understand which sign the result has to have.
 

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