Calculate Force to Elongate Steel Bar

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The problem involves calculating the force required to elongate a steel bar with specific dimensions and elongation. The subject area pertains to material properties and mechanics, specifically focusing on Young's modulus and stress-strain relationships.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • The original poster attempts to apply the relationship between stress, strain, and Young's modulus but questions the accuracy of their calculated force. Some participants question the units used for Young's modulus and suggest that the original poster may have made an error in the area calculation.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing insights into potential unit conversion issues and clarifying the expected values for Young's modulus. There is no explicit consensus yet, but guidance on unit conversion has been offered.

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Participants are discussing the implications of using different unit systems, particularly the need to convert Young's modulus from psi to SI units. There is also mention of expected values for Young's modulus for steel, indicating a potential misunderstanding in the original poster's calculations.

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Homework Statement



What Force must be applied to a steel bar, 1in [25.4mm] square and 2ft [610mm] long, to produce an elongation of .016in. [.4064mm]?

Homework Equations



L=610mm
ΔL=.4064mm
E=29,000,000


The Attempt at a Solution



What I know is:

E=Stress/Strain

Strain=.4064/610 = 6.66*10^-4

Stress=F/A
Stress=19329.65
 
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I am not getting the correct answer for FORCE. F=stress(Area) Am I messing up the Area some how?? The answer is suppose to be 86KN of Force or 19,333lb
 
Hi raiderUM. What are the units for Young's modulus that you are using. From your numerical answers you're using SI units. But, E=29x106 is small for steel, it should be about 103 to 104 times as large as that number. This would give you the same approximately the same error from what you had.
 
Sleepy_time said:
Hi raiderUM. What are the units for Young's modulus that you are using. From your numerical answers you're using SI units. But, E=29x106 is small for steel, it should be about 103 to 104 times as large as that number. This would give you the same approximately the same error from what you had.

The units of the Young's modulus that the OP used were psi. He already has the right answer (aside from roundoff).

Chet
 
Ok, that's the reason. You need to convert it into Pa or Nm-2. On wikipedia it says that for steel E=200\times10^9 Nm^{-2}. This will give you the answer that you need.
 

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