Calculate Horn Frequency Decay Time in Seconds

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The problem involves calculating the time it takes for the frequency of a car's horn to decrease by 5% as the car accelerates away from an observer. The context includes the frequency of the horn, the acceleration of the car, and the speed of sound in air.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the initial calculations regarding the frequency shift due to the Doppler effect and question how to incorporate the time it takes for sound to reach the observer.

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Some participants have provided insights into the need to consider the distance the car travels while the sound reaches the observer. There is an ongoing exploration of how to accurately account for this additional time in the calculations.

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Participants are working under the constraint of providing numerical answers without units and are encouraged to focus on significant figures. There is uncertainty regarding the correct equations to use for the sound travel time and the overall setup of the problem.

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Homework Statement




While blowing its horn of frequency 451 Hz, a car accelerates at 0.64 m/s2.

The car starts from rest by your side and moves away.

How long will it take for the frequency you hear to decrease by 5%?

Hint: Do not forget to include the time it will take for sound to reach you.

Give your answer in s, and to three significant figures.

Only answer in numerical values, no units.

Homework Equations



speed of sound in air is 340 m/s

The Attempt at a Solution




fsource = fo (1/(1+vsource/c))

0.95 = (1/(1+vsource/c))

vsourve = 17.89m/s

V= v0 +at
t= 17.89/0.64
t = 28.0 seconds


This is wrong
 
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You probably just need to take into account the time it takes for sound to reach the observer. If the time you got is right, then at 28.0s the car would have traveled some distance that sound would have to cover in some time to get to the observer.
 
OK. I am not sure how to account for this. What equation would i use?

Thanks a lot
 
The car traveled a distance x = .5at2 from the observer, in which t = 28.0s. This would mean that for the sound carrying the relative frequency to get to the observer, it would have to travel through this distance to get to the observer. Your total time would take this into account.
 

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