Calculate intial angle of a refracted wave

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The discussion revolves around calculating the initial angle of a refracted wave, specifically in the context of wave propagation through different layers with varying velocities. The problem involves applying Snell's Law and understanding the relationship between wave velocities and indices of refraction.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the known variables, including velocity contrasts and layer thicknesses, and explore how these relate to Snell's Law. There are attempts to derive relationships between angles and distances using trigonometric identities, with some questioning the clarity of the problem setup.

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Some participants have provided insights into the mathematical relationships involved, while others express uncertainty about the direction of their algebraic manipulations. There is an acknowledgment of the complexity of the equations, and one participant has resorted to an iterative solution method in MATLAB, indicating a productive exploration of the problem.

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Participants note the need for a general solution based on specific parameters, such as the velocity contrast and layer thickness, while also considering the implications of these parameters on the derivation process. There is a mention of the lack of explicit consensus on the best approach to take.

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Please see attached image for problem and brief description of attempted solution.

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Can you be more clear on what exactly is known?
 
BOYLANATOR said:
Please see attached image for problem and brief description of attempted solution.

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Yes this is solvable.
 
I'm looking for a general solution when you know the velocity contrast of the layers (to give the ratio for snells law) and you know the thickness of the two layers as well as the separation of the source and receiver.
 
BOYLANATOR said:
I'm looking for a general solution when you know the velocity contrast of the layers (to give the ratio for snells law) and you know the thickness of the two layers as well as the separation of the source and receiver.
Do you know how the velocities are related to index of refraction?
 
Yes v2/v1 =n1/n2. But whether I use the ratio of refractive indices or the ratio of velocities doesn't really matter. Either way they are just two known variables that carry through.

Without writing out my attempt at a derivation in full, what I did was re-write Θ2 in terms of Θ1. Then you get a nasty term of the form tan(arcsin(x)) which can be replaced by x/(sqrt(1-x^2)). I get rid of the other tan(theta) in terms of opp/adj in an attempt to first work them out (getting theta back will be easy at the end) but then the equations are hard to solve.

Sorry I don't have my workings here. I can write out some maths tomorrow.
 
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Lets say that D/2 is the sum of the horizontal distances traveled in the two layers (only considering the downgoing wave):

D/2 = (d_1+d_2=) z_1tan\theta_1+z_2tan\theta_2

From Snell's Law:

\theta_2=sin^{-1}(\frac{v_2}{v_1}sin\theta_1)

D/2 = z_1tan\theta_1+z_2tan(sin^{-1}(\frac{v_2}{v_1}sin\theta_1))

There is a substitution of the form:

tan(sin^{-1}(x))=\frac{x}{\sqrt{1-x^2}}

Therefore,

D/2 = z_1tan\theta_1+z_2\frac{\frac{v_2}{v_1}sin\theta_1}{\sqrt{1-(\frac{v_2}{v_1}sin\theta_1)^2}}

From here, I wasn't sure what direction to go in. I tried swapping the angles for known distances using basic trig but the algebra became very long. The goal is really just to rearrange for either \theta_1 or if it's easier to swap out the angles then I would want to solve for either d_1 where d_1 is the horizontal distance traveled in the first layer.
 
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I needed the solution for this to run a computer model. I have since just solved the problem iteratively in MATLAB but I am interested to know if the maths leads to a reasonably neat solution. Any ideas?
 

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