Calculate kw from positve and negative energy totals

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around calculating kilowatts (kW) or kilowatt-hours (kWh) from recorded energy readings taken from an electricity meter. Participants explore the interpretation of positive and negative energy totals, as well as the implications of these readings in the context of AC power and the power triangle.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks guidance on calculating kW or kWh from given positive and negative energy totals recorded every 15 minutes.
  • A later post corrects the initial figures provided for the energy readings.
  • Another participant requests clarification on the meaning of the positive and negative values, suggesting that if they represent positive and negative rms power, the two values might be added together.
  • One participant expresses uncertainty about the interpretation of the values, noting the challenge in balancing the power triangle equations when attempting to square the values.
  • There is a suggestion that the 'h' in the readings indicates hour values, but confusion remains regarding how to process the 15-minute interval data.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the interpretation of the positive and negative energy totals or how to proceed with the calculations. Multiple competing views and uncertainties remain regarding the definitions and implications of the readings.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight limitations in understanding the definitions of the positive and negative values, as well as the implications of the 15-minute recording intervals on the calculations.

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Hi can anyone tell me if I had the following readings how could I calculate kw or kwh. The readings were taken from an electricity meter which logged the values every 15 minutes and the values below are what were recorded in the first 15 minute period;

A+ Energy Total = 3920Wh
A- Energy Total = 3480Wh

Q+ Energy Total = 248560varh
Q- Energy Total = 2920varh

S+ Energy Total = 3920Wh
S- Energy Total = 7440Wh

Really what I need to figure out is how do you get the absolute values based on the positive and negative values.
 
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Hi just realized I posted the wrong figures. They should be;

A+ Energy Total = 3920Wh
A- Energy Total = 3480Wh

Q+ Energy Total = 3960varh
Q- Energy Total = 2920varh

S+ Energy Total = 3920Wh
S- Energy Total = 7440Wh
 
Welcome to PF. Could you explain in a little more detail what the + and - are? AC power isn't typically expressed that way. If it's the positive and negative rms power (the area under the power curve on the positive and negative sides of the sine wave), then I would think you just add the two values together.
 
My problem is I don't know what the + and - are.

I think as the values have h after them they are hour values, but as the values are recorded every 15 minutes I am not sure what to do with them.
Also I believe the values A,Q and S make up the power triangle but I can't get the equation to balance if you square them.

I have tried adding them and squaring them but I still can't get it to balance.

Can anyone shed any light?
 

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