Calculate Logs without Calculator - Tips & Methods

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The discussion revolves around methods for calculating logarithms and antilogarithms without the use of calculators, particularly in the context of solving pH problems. Participants explore various techniques for estimating common logarithms and handling decimal exponents.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant requests methods for estimating common logarithms without calculators, expressing difficulty in solving pH problems.
  • Another participant suggests using rough values for common logarithms and mentions historical methods like log tables and slide rules.
  • A participant shares a method for calculating antilogs, specifically how to find the H+ ion concentration from a given pH, breaking down the calculation into manageable parts.
  • One participant provides a table of approximate logarithm values, indicating that these can be generated using known logarithmic properties.
  • Another participant mentions using the approximation \(2^{10} \approx 10^3\) to derive \(\log(2) \approx 0.3\) and subsequently other logarithmic values.

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Participants generally agree on the methods for estimating logarithms and antilogarithms, but there is no consensus on a single best approach, as multiple techniques and approximations are discussed.

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Some calculations rely on approximations and assumptions about logarithmic properties, and the accuracy of these estimates may vary. The discussion does not resolve the best method for calculating decimal exponents without a calculator.

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Hi,
I have been solving pH problems since last 2 days but the problem is that I don't know any method to calculate logarithms without using calculators,so anybody can spare few minutes to show me how to calculate(estimate in general sense) common logarithms ?[to mod-I wasn't sure where to put that so please move it if thread is in the wrong place :)]
 
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hp12345 said:
Hi,
I have been solving pH problems since last 2 days but the problem is that I don't know any method to calculate logarithms without using calculators,so anybody can spare few minutes to show me how to calculate(estimate in general sense) common logarithms ?[to mod-I wasn't sure where to put that so please move it if thread is in the wrong place :)]

You can in principle calculate logs by hand, but it is not really practical. Before we had cheap calculators we used log tables and slide rules.

But if you only need rough values you can use the following common (base 10) logarithms \(\log(1)=0\), \(\log(10)=1\), \(\log(100)=2\) etc. \(\log(2)\approx 0.3\), \(\log(2.5)\approx 0.4\), \(\log(4)\approx 0.6\) \(\log(5)\approx 0.7\), \(\log(6.25)\approx 0.8\), \(\log(8)\approx 0.9\) and the laws of logarithms to estimate other logs base 10.

CB
 
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Thank you for replying.
I think I have got it,I will come back if I will need help :)
 
Hi,
So now I am quite used to estimate pH but now the problem arises when it comes to antilogs.
For example a question states that-ph of a solution is 3.28 so find its H+ ion concentration.
As I know pH = - log[H+],on solving by taking antilog I am left with [H+] =10^-3.28 which I further simplifies to [H+]=10^-3*10^-0.28 so the question is how to calculate 10^-0.28 without calculator ?
or in short how to calculate decimal exponents ?

I referred many books,vids and net but everywhere nobody shows the way to calculate that without calculator. :confused:
 
hp12345 said:
Hi,
So now I am quite used to estimate pH but now the problem arises when it comes to antilogs.
For example a question states that-ph of a solution is 3.28 so find its H+ ion concentration.
As I know pH = - log[H+],on solving by taking antilog I am left with [H+] =10^-3.28 which I further simplifies to [H+]=10^-3*10^-0.28 so the question is how to calculate 10^-0.28 without calculator ?
or in short how to calculate decimal exponents ?

I referred many books,vids and net but everywhere nobody shows the way to calculate that without calculator. :confused:

1. Transform the value -3.28 into a sum of an integer and a positive decimal fraction. You'll get:

$-3.28 \approx -4 + 0.7$

2. Now use base 10:

$10^{-3.28} \approx 10^{-4+0.7} = 10^{-4} \cdot 10^{0.7}$

3. Now use the table posted by CB:

$10^{-3.28} \approx 10^{-4+0.7} = 10^{-4} \cdot 10^{0.7} = 0.0001 \cdot 5 = 0.0005$

If you use a calculator (for confrimation only!) you'll get: $10^{-3.28} \approx 0.000525$btw: If you have a new problem please start a new thread.
 
I might as well complete the little table of approximate logs I started in an earlier post:

\[\begin{array}{|c|c|} \hline \\ x & \log_{10}(x)\\ \hline \\ 1.25& 0.1 \\ 1.56 & 0.2 \\ 2 & 0.3 \\ 2.5 & 0.4 \\ 3.125 & 0.5 \\
4 & 0.6 \\ 5 & 0.7 \\ 6.25 & 0.8 \\ 8 & 0.9 \\ \hline \end{array} \]

Note you can produce this table yourself just by knowing that \(\log_{10}(2)\approx 0.3\) and using the laws of logarithms. The relative errors are all below 5%, and other than the first two better than 1.1%

CB
 
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I have used the well-known approximation $\displaystyle 2^{10}\approx10^3$ to show students how to obtain $\displaystyle \log(2)\approx0.3$, and then the properties of logs to get other approximations as suggested by CB.
 
earboth said:
btw: If you have a new problem please start a new thread.

err,sorry for that,I will keep that in mind next time.
btw thank you earboth and cb (Smile)
 

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