Calculate Marble Velocity at Angle Theta in a Smooth Pipe

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The discussion revolves around calculating the velocity of a marble moving within a smooth, horizontal pipe at various angles. The problem involves understanding the relationship between speed, angular velocity, and gravitational effects as the marble moves through a vertical plane.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss setting up algebraic equations to express the marble's speed as a function of angle theta. Questions arise regarding the transition from angular velocity to linear speed and the application of conservation principles.

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Some participants have proposed equations relating the marble's speed at different angles, while others are questioning the validity of the dimensional analysis in the proposed solutions. There is an ongoing exploration of the conservation laws applicable to the problem.

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The problem specifies that the marble's speed at the bottom and top of the pipe is known, and participants are encouraged to express the speed at angle theta using these values along with gravitational acceleration. There is an emphasis on maintaining theta as a variable in the final expression.

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These are tough for me. How do I go about setting up an algebraic equation to solve for the velocity of a marble at Angle theta?

Q: A marble spins in a vertical plane around the inside of a smooth, 20--diameter horizontal pipe. The marble's speed at the bottom of the circle is 3.0 m/s. The speed at the top is 2.25 m/s.

The marble's position in the pipe can be specified by an angle theta measured counterclockwise from the bottom of the pipe. Find an algebraic expression for the marble's speed when it is at angle theta . Use numerical values for r, g, and the initial speed, leaving theta as the only symbol in the equation. Your expression should give 3.0 m/s for theta= 0 and 2.25 m/s for theta = 180.

v(theta)=?
 
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I know that for angular velocity (w = d angle/dt). But how in the world do we get to Speed?
 
If you know the angular velocity and the radius of the pipe, can't you find the speed?
 
This is a conservation problem. What is conserved? How do you know?
 
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Got it thanks.

V(theta)^2=V(top)^2+2g(1-COS(theta))

Right?
 
go2cnavy said:
Got it thanks.

V(theta)^2=V(top)^2+2g(1-COS(theta))

Right?
You are probably on the right track, but look at the dimensions in your answer. Not possible.
 

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