Calculate the acceleration of each mass at the instant the thread snaps

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The problem involves a lead mass suspended from a spring and a copper sphere attached by a thread. The thread is burnt, and the task is to determine the acceleration of each mass at that moment. The subject area includes concepts from mechanics, specifically laws of motion and momentum.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the implications of the spring constant not being provided and question the nature of the scenario, with some likening it to an explosion. Others explore the forces acting on the masses and the conditions before and after the thread is cut.

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The discussion is ongoing, with various interpretations being explored. Some participants suggest focusing on the forces at play and the conditions of the system, while others express confusion regarding the acceleration of the copper sphere and its relation to gravitational acceleration.

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There is a lack of information regarding the spring constant, and participants are questioning the assumptions about the initial conditions and the nature of the forces involved in the system.

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Homework Statement


A piece of lead of mass 1.5 kg is suspended from a light spring. A copper sphere of mass 2.5 kg is suspended by keans of a thread as attatched to the lead. The thread is then burnt. Calculate the acceleration of each mass at the instant the thread snaps

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(Mv-mu/ t ) of the lead = mv-mu /t of the sphere
 
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What is that you are revising? Please show what you have done so far. Is the spring constant given?
 
I am revising the laws of motion and momentum. The spring constant is not given So far, I have only guessed that this situation is an explosion but nevertheless I can't think of how is it possible for the copper sphere to adopt an acceleration other than 10m/s. Do you have any ideas about this pls?
 
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Josielle Abdilla said:
No, I am revising the laws of motion and momentum. The spring constant is not given So far, I have only guessed that this situation is an explosion but nevertheless I can't think of how is it possible for the copper sphere to adopt an acceleration other than 10m/s

Just use ##k## for the spring constant and See what you get.
 
I assume that the initial condition is stable and nothing is moving. Then you can figure out how much force the spring is exerting at that position. That gives you its force at the instant that the string is cut. You should be able to calculate the answers from that.
 
Josielle Abdilla said:
I am revising the laws of motion and momentum. The spring constant is not given So far, I have only guessed that this situation is an explosion but nevertheless I can't think of how is it possible for the copper sphere to adopt an acceleration other than 10m/s. Do you have any ideas about this pls?
You may treat it as an explosion that doesn't add kinetic energy to the two masses, so the treatment doesn't buy you much. Remeber that in a spring-mass system the acceleration is proportional to the displacement from the equilibrium position, the constant of proportionality being ##\omega^2##. What are the equilibrium position and ##\omega## after the string is burned and the copper sphere drops?
 
Maybe I am missing something. I don't see any connection to an explosion. The dropping copper sphere is just being released to fall. The lead is just being pulled by a spring. IMHO, both are simple acceleration problems.
 
Josielle Abdilla said:
I can't think of how is it possible for the copper sphere to adopt an acceleration other than 10m/s. Do you have any ideas about this pls?
Do you have a reason for thinking this answer is wrong?
 
Josielle Abdilla said:
an acceleration other than 10m/s
It cannot be that since m/s does not express an acceleration.
 
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The acceleration of the lead is slightly harder. The spring coefficient is not needed. How much force was holding the combined lead and brass before the string was cut? That force is still there after the string is cut.
 

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