Calculate the Capacitance of 3 conductors in the presence of the ground

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The discussion revolves around calculating the capacitance of three conductors in the presence of the ground. Participants explore various equations and methodologies related to capacitance, including the image charge theorem and specific capacitance formulas for different sequences.

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  • One participant expresses uncertainty about how to proceed with the image charge theorem for the problem.
  • Another participant provides formulas for positive and zero sequence capacitance, including specific parameters such as εr, εo, d, and r.
  • A different participant suggests using a specific equation involving potentials and charges, indicating that the potentials and charges are necessary for the calculations.
  • Another participant proposes that calculating the potential for each conductor separately might be more beneficial, presenting a formula for each conductor's potential based on the charges and distances involved.

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There is no clear consensus among participants, as different approaches and equations are suggested, indicating multiple competing views on how to tackle the problem.

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Participants reference various parameters and equations without resolving the dependencies on specific assumptions or the implications of the chosen methods. The discussion includes unresolved mathematical steps and the need for additional information such as potentials and charges.

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Homework Statement
The conductors are cylindrical, equally spaced, and parallel to each other, with a radius r0 = 0.5 cm.
Conductors 2 and 3 are located at a height of h = 5 m from the ground; the distance between the conductors is equal to
d = 10 cm Let V1, V2, and V3 be the voltages applied to each conductor and Q1, Q2, and Q3 the charges for
a unit of length. Calculate the partial capacities of the system
Relevant Equations
C= Q/V0
Initially, I thought to apply the image charge theorem, but I don't know how to continue.
Someone could give me some indication on how to solve the problem? Thank you.
 

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Positive sequence capacitance:

2.π.εr.εo/ln(d/r) nF/km

Zero sequence capacitance:

2.π.εr.εo/{3.ln[2.h/(r.d^2)^(1/3)]} nF/km
d=(d12.d23.d31)^(1/3) [m]

h=(h1.h2.h3)^(1/3) [m]

For air ambient εr=1

εo =8.854 nF/km

r=conductor radius [m]
 
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I think you have another problem. Since they are given the potentials and the charges you have to employ this equation[typical]:
V12=1/(2.π.εr.εo).{Q1.[ln(d12/r)-ln(h12'/h1]+Q2.[-ln(d12/r)-ln(h2/h12')]+Q3.[ln(d23/d31)-ln(h23/h31)]}
Where V12=V1-V2
What do you need is V1,V2 and V3 if Q1=Q2=Q3=1?
 

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At the second look it seems that the calculated potential for each separate conductor is more useful.

V1=k.[Q1.ln(h1/r)+Q2.ln(h12/d12)+Q3.ln(h13/d13)]

V2=k.[Q2.ln(h2/r)+Q1.ln(h12/d12)+Q3.ln(h23/d23)

V3=k.[Q3.ln(h3/r)+Q1.ln(h13/d13)+Q2.ln(h23/d23)]

k=1/(2.π.εr.εo)= 17975484.88 km/F

If Q=1C[Coulomb] V1[V] Cap=1C/V[F]
 
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