Calculate the cost of the energy lost to heat per hour per meter

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The problem involves calculating the cost of energy lost to heat in a power transmission scenario, specifically for a small city requiring 17 MW of power delivered at 120 V using copper wire. The discussion revolves around resistance, power loss, and cost calculations related to electrical transmission.

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  • Participants explore the relationship between power, resistance, and cost, attempting to derive formulas for energy loss. Questions arise regarding unit conversions and the derivation of specific values, such as the factor of 7.2 in the power calculation.

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The discussion includes attempts to clarify misunderstandings about units and calculations. Some participants express confusion about specific steps and values, while others offer corrections and insights into the calculations presented. There is no clear consensus on the correct approach, but productive dialogue is ongoing.

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Participants note potential errors in the original poster's calculations and assumptions, particularly regarding the treatment of power and time in the context of energy loss. The problem's constraints and the specific requirements of the homework are acknowledged but not resolved.

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Homework Statement



A small city requires about ##17 \mbox{MW}## of power. Suppose that instead of using high-voltage lines to supply the power, the power is delivered at ##120 V##.

Assuming a two-wire line of 0.60cm -diameter copper wire, estimate the cost of the energy lost to heat per hour per meter. Assume the cost of electricity is about ##9.5\, \mbox{ cents}/\mbox{kWh} ##

Homework Equations



  • ##R = \dfrac{\rho \ell}{A}##
  • ##P = I^2R##
  • ##W = IV##

The Attempt at a Solution



Given that a small city requires that amount of watts ##W##

##W = IV##
##I = \dfrac{W}{V}##

By the resistance formula, rewrite it in terms of ohms per meter, which is

##R = \dfrac{\rho}{A}##

But we also know that the "face" of the wire is circle, so

##R = \dfrac{\rho}{\pi r^2}##

which is equivalent to

##R = \dfrac{\rho}{\dfrac{d^2\pi}{4}}##

where ##d## is the diameter of the wire. For the power rate, we have double the power rate of one wire, so

##P = 2I^2R##
##P = 2\left( \dfrac{W}{V}\right)^2 \left(\dfrac{\rho}{\dfrac{d^2\pi}{4}} \right)##

The units of that ##P## are now ##\mbox{W}/\mbox{s}##. By unit conversion, we obtain

##P = 7.2\left( \dfrac{W}{V}\right)^2 \left(\dfrac{\rho}{\dfrac{d^2\pi}{4}} \right)##

Given that the cost of electricity is around 9.5 cents per kilowatts hour,

##\text{Cost of lost energy}=7.2\cdot 9.5\left( \dfrac{W}{V}\right)^2 \left(\dfrac{\rho}{\dfrac{d^2\pi}{4}} \right)##

##\text{Cost of lost energy} = 68.4\left( \dfrac{W}{V}\right)^2 \left(\dfrac{\rho}{\dfrac{d^2\pi}{4}} \right)##

So converting cents into dollars, we finally obtain

##\text{Cost of lost energy} = .684\left( \dfrac{W}{V}\right)^2 \left(\dfrac{\rho}{\dfrac{d^2\pi}{4}} \right)##

By substitution, I got around $8156585 per hour per meter, but Mastering Physics marked it incorrect. I don't see where I went wrong.
 
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r2 <> d/4
 
I don't understand the bit that says...

The units of that P are in W/s.

Power is measured in Watts not Watts per second.

Where does the 7.2 come from exactly?
 
CWatters said:
Power is measured in Watts not Watts per second.

I mean ##P## is treated as Watts per second as a rate.

CWatters said:
Where does the 7.2 come from exactly?

I used the unit conversions to convert second into hours and Watts into kiloWatts
 
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Never mind. I found the solution. Anyway, thanks for the mistake catch!
 
To all those checking out this thread to figure out the solution to this kind of question (like I was), the problem here was that NasuSama multiplied the power by 3600s (the time in an hour). This is unnecessary because the question was posed in KWh, where you're to find how much power is lost in 1 hour.
 

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