Calculate the diameter of a baby's head using ultrasound speed

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The discussion revolves around calculating the diameter of a baby's head using the speed of ultrasound and the time delay of sound waves. The problem involves understanding the relationship between distance, speed, and time in the context of ultrasound measurements.

Discussion Character

  • Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the calculation of distance using the formula distance = speed x time, with initial attempts yielding different results. Questions arise regarding the interpretation of the time delay and whether it accounts for the round trip of the ultrasound waves.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively revising their calculations and questioning their assumptions about the time taken for sound to travel. Some have recognized the need to divide the time by two to account for the return trip of the ultrasound waves, while others are clarifying the correct units for time measurement.

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There is an ongoing discussion about the correct interpretation of the time delay and its implications for the calculation, as well as the proper use of units for time (microseconds vs. milliseconds).

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Homework Statement


Calculate the diameter of a baby's head if there is a time delay of 96 microseconds between receiving pluses from either side of the skull and the speed of ultrasound can be assumed to be 1250m/s.

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The diameter of the baby’s head can be calculated using distance = speed x time where:

Speed of ultrasound = 1250 m/s
= 0.00125 m/ms

Therefore:
Distance (diameter) = 0.00125 x 96
=0.08625 m
= 8.6 cm (1dp)

Where am in going wrong? I'm advised to think about the echo factor the sound waves leaves the transducer reaches the skull and then has to travel back to the transducer.

Please help!
 
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Littlegirloud said:
Distance (diameter) = 0.00125 x 96
=0.08625 m
I get a different result in that multiplication.

There is another error. Imagine the source of the sound is directly at one side of the head of the baby. In terms of "head diameters", how far does the sound travel to reach the opposite side of the head and come back?
 
Thanks for the pointer on the calculation, I'll do it again. Is the second mistake that I'm only considering travel time in one direction? So 96x2 to a count for return time too? For some reason I'm just really struggling to get my head around (pun half intended) this one.
 
Littlegirloud said:
So 96x2 to a count for return time too?
That is the wrong direction.
The sound needs 96 microseconds for both directions together.
 
Thank you!
 
Here's my updated attempt. Closer?

The diameter of the baby’s head can be calculated using distance = speed x time where:
Speed of ultrasound = 1250 m/s
= 0.00125 m/ms

and if 96 microseconds is the time taken for the wave to reflect then time taken across the baby’s head = 96/2
= 48

Therefore:
Distance (diameter) = 0.00125 x 48
= 0.06 m
= 6 cm
 
Littlegirloud said:
Here's my updated attempt. Closer?

The diameter of the baby’s head can be calculated using distance = speed x time where:
Speed of ultrasound = 1250 m/s
= 0.00125 m/ms

and if 96 microseconds is the time taken for the wave to reflect then time taken across the baby’s head = 96/2
= 48

Therefore:
Distance (diameter) = 0.00125 x 48
= 0.06 m
= 6 cm
Yes, but "ms" is the abbreviation for milliseconds. For microseconds it is μs.
 

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