How to calculate head loss in a pipe with sudden diameter expansion?

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To calculate head loss in a pipe with sudden diameter expansion, the flow rates at both diameters must be equal, leading to different velocities. The velocities are calculated as 7.28 m/s for the 350 mm diameter and 1.82 m/s for the 700 mm diameter. The head loss can be derived from Bernoulli's equation, which shows that the pressure difference between the inlet and outlet contributes to the head loss, defined as the decrease in energy head. The discussion highlights confusion about the pressure values and the correct application of head loss equations, emphasizing that the head loss is calculated without needing to know the individual pressures at both points. The final calculation indicates a head loss of 2.53 m, but the need for considering frictional losses and discharge coefficients is also noted.
  • #31
foo9008 said:
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here it is , it should be 105N/(m^2)
Well, it's hard to know what they are referring to by "energy head lost." It isn't clear whether that is the same as "head lost." It also isn't clear whether the "given solution" is correct, because there is actually a head gain calculated , not a head loss.

Also, have you been learning about discharge coefficients and frictional head loss? If so, then the given solution is incorrect. There should be a frictional head loss included in the equation that is calculated from a discharge coefficient, based on the velocity at the 350 mm location (and and the diameter ratio at the sudden enlargement). So, have you been learning about discharge coefficients and, if so, what does your book give for the discharge coefficient for a sudden expansion to twice the diameter?
 
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  • #32
Chestermiller said:
Well, it's hard to know what they are referring to by "energy head lost." It isn't clear whether that is the same as "head lost." It also isn't clear whether the "given solution" is correct, because there is actually a head gain calculated , not a head loss.

Also, have you been learning about discharge coefficients and frictional head loss? If so, then the given solution is incorrect. There should be a frictional head loss included in the equation that is calculated from a discharge coefficient, based on the velocity at the 350 mm location (and and the diameter ratio at the sudden enlargement). So, have you been learning about discharge coefficients and, if so, what does your book give for the discharge coefficient for a sudden expansion to twice the diameter?
no , i haven't learn about discharge coefficient , but , according to the book , the loss due to expansion is given by [(V1 -V2)^2 /] 2g
 
  • #33
Chestermiller said:
Well, it's hard to know what they are referring to by "energy head lost." It isn't clear whether that is the same as "head lost." It also isn't clear whether the "given solution" is correct, because there is actually a head gain calculated , not a head loss.

Also, have you been learning about discharge coefficients and frictional head loss? If so, then the given solution is incorrect. There should be a frictional head loss included in the equation that is calculated from a discharge coefficient, based on the velocity at the 350 mm location (and and the diameter ratio at the sudden enlargement). So, have you been learning about discharge coefficients and, if so, what does your book give for the discharge coefficient for a sudden expansion to twice the diameter?
but , if the solution look like the previous post ( your working ) , teh question should be rephrased as estimate the head loss , but not estimate the total head loss/ total energy loss ?
 
  • #34
foo9008 said:
but , if the solution look like the previous post ( your working ) , teh question should be rephrased as estimate the head loss , but not estimate the total head loss/ total energy loss ?
For calculating the frictional head loss at a sudden expansion, see Table 7.5-1 of Transport Phenomena by Bird, Stewart, and Lightfoot.
 

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