Calculate the energy associated with the magnetic field of a solenoid

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The discussion revolves around calculating the energy associated with the magnetic field of a solenoid, specifically one with 191 turns and a current of 1.37 A producing a magnetic flux of 3.52 x 10-4 T · m2 in each turn.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to use the formula for energy density and expresses uncertainty about the correctness of their calculations. Some participants suggest considering the formula for inductance as potentially relevant. Others raise questions about the measurement of energy in a magnetic field that evolves over time, particularly regarding the energy distribution as the field expands.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different aspects of the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the inductance formula, and there is a mix of interpretations about the nature of the magnetic field and its energy over time.

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Homework Statement


Calculate the energy associated with the magnetic field of a 191-turn solenoid in which a current of 1.37 A produces a magnetic flux of 3.52 10-4 T · m2 in each turn.
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uo=4pie x10^-7

Homework Equations


ub=B^2/2uo(the constant)
U=1/2LI^2

The Attempt at a Solution


ub=(3.52x10^-4)^2/2(4piex10^-7)

I tried this and the answer i got 49.29mJ was incorrect. Not sure if I am missing something or using the incorrect formula here. Its due Tuesday March 27 by midnight thanks.
 
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I'm not 100% sure
but I think the formula you're missing here is the one for inductance:

L=\frac{N\Phi_B}{i}
 
An interesting question. How does one unambiguously measure the energy of a magnetic field that is first zero valued before the current is turned on at time t0? The field then expands at the speed of light. Wouldn't it have less energy at time t1>t0 than at time t=infinity as it fills all space?
 
"...Wouldn't it have less energy at time t1>t0 than at time t=infinity as it fills all space? "

I don't believe it fills all space. I think the field is limited to the area where the field lines are able to be fully realized. When the lines are broken, the field is at the end of it's limits.
 
Not in general, but but any case, the Energy of a solenoid is given by W=½I2L.
 

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