Calculate the Length of a Curve: y=(e^x+e^-x)/2 from x=0 to x=ln4

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The discussion revolves around calculating the length of the curve defined by the function y=(e^x+e^-x)/2 from x=0 to x=ln4, which involves concepts from calculus and the properties of hyperbolic functions.

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  • Participants explore different methods to evaluate the integral for the curve length, including substitution and the use of hyperbolic functions. Questions arise regarding the necessity of hyperbolic functions and the simplification of expressions.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing guidance on recognizing perfect squares in the integral and questioning the need for substitutions. There is an ongoing exploration of different approaches without a clear consensus on the preferred method.

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Some participants express unfamiliarity with hyperbolic functions, indicating that they are not yet covered in their coursework. This may influence their approach to the problem.

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Find the length of the curve y=(e^x+e^-x)/2 from x=0 to x=ln4.
[tex]\frac{dy}{dx}= \frac{1}{2} \frac{d}{dx}e^x + \frac{1}{2} \frac{d}{dx}e^{-x}= \frac{1}{2}(e^x-e^{-x}) \\[/tex].
Therefore [tex](\frac{dy}{dx})^2=\frac{1}{4}(e^x-e^{-x})\\[/tex] Therefore [tex]1+(\frac{dy}{dx})^2=\frac{1}{4}(e^{2x} -2e^xe^{-x}+e^{-2x}+4)^\frac{1}{2}\\[/tex].
Therefore [tex]\int_0^{ln4}\frac{1}{2}(e^{2x}-2e^xe^{-x}+e^{-2x}+4)^\frac{1}{2}dx[/tex]. Do I solve this by substitution by letting [tex]u^2 = e^{2x}-2e^xe^{-x}+e{-2x}+4[/tex]? Or what way should I approach it? Using the said substitution I get the following integral: [tex]\int u^2 \frac{1}{e^{2x}-e^{-2x}}du[/tex]
 
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It will be a far simpler problem if you use the fact that [tex]\frac{e^x+e^{-x}}{2}=\cosh x[/tex]. Have you encountered hyperbolic functions?
 
No I haven't encountered hyperbolic functions yet. They are two more chaphers away yet.Thanks for the help.
 
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No I haven't encountered hyperbolic functions yet. They are two more chaphers away yet.Thanks for the help.

Well, all you need to know for this question is that [tex]\frac{d}{dx}\cosh x=\sinh x , \hspace{1cm} \frac{d}{dx}\sinh x=\cosh x[/tex] and the identity [tex]\cosh^2x-\sinh^2x=1[/tex]
 
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You said it would be a far simpler problem to use the fact that [tex]\frac{e^x+e^{-x}}{2}=coshx[/tex]. Does that imply that it can still be done without the hyperbolic function method. If it does I would like to see the other longer way of solving this integral, please. Thanks.
 
[tex]\int_0^{ln4}\frac{1}{2}(e^{2x}-2e^xe^{-x}+e^{-2x}+4)^\frac{1}{2}dx[/tex]

Start here. e^x*e^(-x)=1, right?
 
Yes, I got as far as [tex]\int u^2\frac{1}{e^{x}-e^{-x}}du[/tex] but I cannot express [tex]e^x-e^{-x}[/tex] in terms of u.
 
Then back up. It's much simpler than you are making it out to be. I'm trying to get you to notice that the expression inside of the (1/2) power in my last posting is a PERFECT SQUARE.
 
Yes, But what property of a perfect square am I to notice?
 
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That sqrt(a^2)=a. Simplify the integral before you start substituting.
 
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[tex]\frac{1}{4}\int_0^{In4}((e^x + e^{-x}})^2)^\frac{1}{2}dx[/tex], is the integral to be solved.
 
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Yes. So you can eliminate the exponents and, voila, you don't need a substitution.
 
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PS. You have an extra factor of (1/2) in there.
 
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Thanks very much Dick.
 

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