Calculate the pressure using the Van der Waal equation on reduced variables

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The discussion focuses on calculating pressure using the Van der Waals (vdW) equation with reduced variables for ethane in a specified container. The user calculated the correction factors a and b as a function of critical temperature (T_c = 305.4 K) and critical pressure (P_c = 48.2 atm), resulting in a = 5.489 L² atm/mol² and b = 0.0649 L/mol. After determining the moles of ethane (2.493 mol) and molar volume (0.08022 L/mol), the user derived a pressure of 808.5 atm using the vdW equation. The calculations were confirmed to be correct, despite the high pressure result.

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Summary:: Find the pressure using the vdw equation in reduced variables

Hi everyone!
I have a doubt when I try to solve this exercise. The result was very high pressure.
Calculate the pressure using the reduced variable vdW equation for a sample of 74.8 grams of ethane in a ##200 cm^3## container and at ##310.5 K##. The ##P_c = 48.2 atm## and ##T_c = 305.4K##

I calculated the correction factors a and b as a function of ##T_c## and ##P_c##
##a=(27R^2T_c^2)/(64P_c)##
##b = (RT_c)/(8P_c)##

##a=5,489 L^2 atm/mol^2##
##b=0,0649 L/mol##


Then I calculated the moles and then calculated the molar volume:
74.8 gramos = 2,493 mol

##V_m = 0,2L/2,493mol##
##V_m = 0,08022 L/mol##


and the van der Waals equation of state:

##(P + \frac{a}{V_m^2})(V_m -b) = RT##

and clearing ##P## and replacing:

##(P + \frac{5.489}{(0,08022)^2})(0.08022 -0.0649) = (0.082)(310.5)##

##P = 808,5 atm##

This is possible?
Is the procedure correct?
Thank you very much for the help
 
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First of all carry the units and be sure to check each step of the calculation.
Always. Habitually. Never Forget.
I believe the first calculation (for a ) my be wrong. Now check all of them.
 
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hutchphd said:
First of all carry the units and be sure to check each step of the calculation.
Always. Habitually. Never Forget.
I believe the first calculation (for a ) my be wrong. Now check all of them.

hi hutchphd! :)
I checked and they give me well the factor "a".
I did the calculation again and it gives ##a=5,489 L^2 atm/mol^2 ##
thanks for the advice!
 
I'll take a look again later if you still don't find the problem. Does seem wrong to me...shouldn't the molar volume at 50 atm be ~half a liter (22.4 l/mole at stp)?
sorry i revised
 
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hutchphd said:
I'll take a look again later if you still don't find the problem. Does seem wrong to me...shouldn't the molar volume at 50 atm be ~half a liter (22.4 l/mole at stp)?
sorry i revised

I can't find the error, if there is one
:(
 
The values for a and b seem correct (and match published values!). The "occluded space" "b" for 2.5 mole is therefore ~.165 liter and so the pressure is going to be pretty damned high! I think your answer is correct (sorry for my lousy intuition here) Good luck.
 
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The values for a and b seem correct (and match published values!). The "occluded space" "b" for 2.5 mole is therefore ~.165 liter and so the pressure is going to be pretty damned high! I think your answer is correct (sorry for my lousy intuition here) Good luck.

You have been very helpful! thank you very much!
 
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