Calculate the speed of a point based on a graph

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The discussion focuses on calculating the average and maximum speed of a point moving rectilinearly based on a distance-time graph. The average speed was calculated as 0.1 m/s using the formula v=Δs/Δt, confirming that the total distance of 2.0 m over 20 seconds is accurate. To find the maximum speed, participants discussed identifying the segment of the graph with the greatest change in distance over the least change in time, suggesting the interval from t=10s to t=16s. For the instantaneous speed equal to the average speed, it was determined that this occurs at t=16s, where the tangent line's slope matches the average speed line from the origin to that point. The conversation emphasized understanding the relationship between average and instantaneous speeds through graphical analysis.
  • #31
haruspex said:
The line from the origin to the curve at t=10s is the same as the tangent at t=10s? I don't think so.
But I think there isn't any line from the origin that would be equal to the tangent at t=10s. At leaks it looks like that.
 
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  • #32
Davidllerenav said:
But I think there isn't any line from the origin that would be equal to the tangent at t=10s. At leaks it looks like that.
Right, so t=10s is not the point we're after - that was just an example.
Find a point where the two lines to that point, as we have discussed, would be the same.
 
  • #33
haruspex said:
Right, so t=10s is not the point we're after - that was just an example.
Find a point where the two lines to that point, as we have discussed, would be the same.
It seems that t=16 would do.
 
  • #34
Davidllerenav said:
It seems that t=16 would do.
Bingo.
 
  • #35
haruspex said:
Bingo.
Ok! So for the second question, I'll have to calculate the maximum speed (slope) at the interval from t=10 sto t=14s, where the distance goes from s=1.0m to s-1.4m.
For the third, I must say that the instantaneous speed at t=16 is equal to the average speed from t=0s to t=16s.
That's all, right?
 
  • #36
Davidllerenav said:
Ok! So for the second question, I'll have to calculate the maximum speed (slope) at the interval from t=10 sto t=14s, where the distance goes from s=1.0m to s-1.4m.
For the third, I must say that the instantaneous speed at t=16 is equal to the average speed from t=0s to t=16s.
That's all, right?
Yes.
 
  • #37
haruspex said:
Yes.
Thanks for your help!
 
  • #38
Davidllerenav said:
Thanks for your help!
You are welcome. You understood the method, yes?
 
  • #39
haruspex said:
You are welcome. You understood the method, yes?
Yes. When I'm asked to find the maximum velocity on a graph of distance vs. time, I must look for the interval where the point travels more distance in the less time. When I'm asked to find the point where the instantaneous speed is equal to the average speed, I must find the point where its tangent line (slope/derivative) is equal to the line from the origin to that point, which is the average speed.
 
  • #40
Davidllerenav said:
When I'm asked to find the point where the instantaneous speed is equal to the average speed, I must find the point where its tangent line (slope/derivative) is equal to the line from the origin to that point, which is the average speed.
Yes, but I meant more in terms of the principles behind that... that the tangent slope gives the instantaneous speed and the slope from the start point to current point gives current average speed.
 
  • #41
haruspex said:
Yes, but I meant more in terms of the principles behind that... that the tangent slope gives the instantaneous speed and the slope from the start point to current point gives current average speed.
Yes. I understood that.
 

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