Calculate the value of ##θ## and ##X##

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The discussion revolves around calculating the angle θ and the value of X in a trigonometric context, specifically involving cosine functions and vector addition in a triangle setup.

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  • Participants explore the relationship between angles and their cosine values, with some questioning the consistency of the equations presented. There are discussions about the use of degrees versus radians and the implications of periodicity in trigonometric functions.

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Several participants have provided insights and alternative perspectives on the equations and assumptions made. There is recognition of potential inconsistencies in the calculations, and some participants suggest different approaches to the problem without reaching a consensus.

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Participants note the redundancy of certain terms in the equations and discuss the implications of using different trigonometric identities. The context includes the consideration of vector addition and the geometric interpretation of the problem.

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See attached- i am doing self learning in this area...insight is welcome
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My take,

##5 \cos 0 = 10 \cos θ##

##\cos θ = 0.5##

##⇒θ = 60^0##

and

##X= 10 \cos (90^0-θ)=\cos 30^0= 8.66## (to two decimal places).

...insight welcome
 
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Not sure anyone works with degrees outside a classroom anymore. From a Mathematical perspective, it may be a good idea to bring up the periodicity of the (arc)sine.
 
Looks good. Just one small inconsistency in your equations:
##5 \cos 0 = 10 \cos θ##
but
##X= 10 \cos 30^0##.
Why the difference?
 
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Hill said:
Looks good. Just one small inconsistency in your equations:
##5 \cos 0 = 10 \cos θ##
but
##X= 10 \cos 30^0##.
Why the difference?
Let me edit that...
 
chwala said:
My take,

##5 \cos 0 = 10 \cos θ##

##\cos θ = 0.5##

##⇒θ = 60^0##
This is correct
"cos 0" is redundant. You can start with ##5 = 10 \cos \theta##
chwala said:
and

##X= 10 \cos 30^0= 8.66## (to two decimal places).

...insight welcome
.. and this. All looks fine.
Instead ##\cos 30^o## I would put ##\sin \theta## . ( ##\theta=60^o## )
Certainly, both are the same number ##\sqrt{3}/2.##
 
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Since you're learning and for future reference.

When ##N## vectors add to zero, they form a closed ##N##-sided polygon, in this case a triangle (figure on the right drawn to scale). Because it is a right triangle, you can find the unknown side by using the Pythagorean theorem $$X=\sqrt{10^2-5^2}~\text{N}.$$Then $$\cos\theta=\frac{5}{10}\implies \theta=60^{\circ}.$$
 
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kuruman said:
View attachment 340154Since you're learning and for future reference.

When ##N## vectors add to zero, they form a closed ##N##-sided polygon, in this case a triangle (figure on the right drawn to scale). Because it is a right triangle, you can find the unknown side by using the Pythagorean theorem $$X=\sqrt{10^2-5^2}~\text{N}.$$Then $$\cos\theta=\frac{5}{10}\implies \theta=60^{\circ}.$$
Nice, i can see that if the ##10## N line is extended to the first quadrant and noting that the angle ##θ## is vertically opposite then we can use your approach.
 
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