Calculate Top Speed of Car Using Gear Ratio, Torque, Power & RPM

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The discussion focuses on calculating the top speed of a car using gear ratios, torque, power, and engine speed (RPM). Key specifications include a maximum torque of 19.2 N-m at 3800 RPM and a maximum power of 10 Hp at 3800 RPM. The gear ratios provided are crucial for determining the vehicle's performance, with an initial input reduction of 2.869 and final forward reduction of 2.38. Participants emphasize the importance of considering aerodynamic drag and rolling resistance in the calculations to accurately determine top speeds and acceleration at various RPMs.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of gear ratios and their impact on vehicle speed
  • Knowledge of torque and power calculations in automotive engineering
  • Familiarity with tractive force and its role in vehicle acceleration
  • Basic principles of aerodynamics and rolling resistance in vehicles
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  • Calculate top speed using the formula: Speed = (RPM * Tire Diameter * π) / (Gear Ratio * Final Drive Ratio)
  • Learn how to compute tractive force using the equation: F = Torque * Gear Ratio / Tire Radius
  • Explore the effects of aerodynamic drag and rolling resistance on vehicle performance
  • Investigate methods for calculating acceleration on inclines and how it affects overall performance
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Automotive engineers, mechanics, and enthusiasts interested in vehicle performance optimization, particularly in understanding the dynamics of torque, power, and gear ratios in relation to speed and acceleration.

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Hey guys,

I am a bit confused while calculating top speed of the car using gear ratio, Torque, Power and Engine Speed(RPM). Can someone help me out with this?

Specifications are given as follows:

Maximum Torque : 19.2 N-m @ 3800 RPM
Maximum Power : 10 Hp @ 2800 RPM

Tire Specifications: 25x8 - R12 or 254/65 - R12

Gear Ratios:
Initial Input Reduction - 2.869
First Gear Ratio - 4.6
Second Gear Ratio - 2.733
Third Gear Ratio - 1.667
Fourth Gear Ratio - 1.115
Final Forward Reduction - 2.38
Final Backward Reduction - 4.17

I am looking for top speed at each gear at different RPM, as well as acceleration, Torque and Tractive Effort.

Your answers will be really helpful.

Thanks and regards

Karan Dua!
 
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Wheel diameter is 12 inches? Tire width = 254mm = 10 inches. Tread wall height = 65% x 10 inches = 6.5 inches. Tire diameter = 12 + 6.5 + 6.5 = 25 inches. Multiply initial and final gear ratios (6.82822) by each gear ratio: 1st = 31.41, 2nd = 18.66, 3rd = 11.38, 4th = 7.613 . See if you can continue from here.
 
Karan Dua said:
Hey guys,

I am a bit confused while calculating top speed of the car using gear ratio, Torque, Power and Engine Speed(RPM). Can someone help me out with this?

Specifications are given as follows:

Maximum Torque : 19.2 N-m @ 3800 RPM
Maximum Power : 10 Hp @ 2800 RPM

Tire Specifications: 25x8 - R12 or 254/65 - R12

Gear Ratios:
Initial Input Reduction - 2.869
First Gear Ratio - 4.6
Second Gear Ratio - 2.733
Third Gear Ratio - 1.667
Fourth Gear Ratio - 1.115
Final Forward Reduction - 2.38
Final Backward Reduction - 4.17

I am looking for top speed at each gear at different RPM, as well as acceleration, Torque and Tractive Effort.

Your answers will be really helpful.

Thanks and regards

Karan Dua!

Welcome to the PF.

Can you give us the context of the question? Is is a homework problem, or a schoolwork project, or a personal project? What kind of car is this that is running on only 10hp? Some kind of a go-kart? :smile:
 
berkeman said:
Welcome to the PF.

Can you give us the context of the question? Is is a homework problem, or a schoolwork project, or a personal project? What kind of car is this that is running on only 10hp? Some kind of a go-kart? :smile:
Just a project!
 
Karan, my first comment is that your horsepower and torque peak speeds can't be right. The power peak is (necessarily) always at a higher speed than the torque peak. You may have a typo, or got bad data.
As for top speeds in each gear, it depends on the aerodynamic drag Fd and rolling resistance Fr of the car. At each vehicle speed, calculate the amount of power it takes to propel it: (Fd+Fr)*v. Then pick a gear and calculate the engine speed omega at that vehicle speed. If the engine can make more than (Fd+Fr)*v, then the car can go faster. Keep trying higher vehicle speeds until the engine can't produce enough power to propel it, or until it hits redline.
 
Randy Beikmann said:
Karan, my first comment is that your horsepower and torque peak speeds can't be right. The power peak is (necessarily) always at a higher speed than the torque peak. You may have a typo, or got bad data.
As for top speeds in each gear, it depends on the aerodynamic drag Fd and rolling resistance Fr of the car. At each vehicle speed, calculate the amount of power it takes to propel it: (Fd+Fr)*v. Then pick a gear and calculate the engine speed omega at that vehicle speed. If the engine can make more than (Fd+Fr)*v, then the car can go faster. Keep trying higher vehicle speeds until the engine can't produce enough power to propel it, or until it hits redline.

Hey Randy,

Thanx a lot for your reply.
I just want to correct myself.

Power : 10 Hp @ 3800 RPM
Torque: 19.2 N-m @ 2800 RPM

How do I find acceleration at each gear @ different RPM of engine.

For example: How do i find acceleration @ 1st gear with gear ratio of 31.45:1 @ 2800 RPM?
 
Karan, I couldn't tell what the tire radius rTire was from your tire spec's above, and didn't see the car's mass.
You'd need to calculate the tractive force F, which is (19.2 N-m)*(31.45)/rTire. Then it's just a=F/m.
 
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Randy Beikmann said:
Karan, I couldn't tell what the tire radius rTire was from your tire spec's above, and didn't see the car's mass.
You'd need to calculate the tractive force F, which is (19.2 N-m)*(31.45)/rTire. Then it's just a=F/m.

The tires which we are using will be 25x8-R12. And the r will be effective rolling radius if i am not wrong? And mass of the car is 400 kgs. And what aabout acceleration on slope? How to calculate that? And do we calculate torque at each gear @ different rpm? If so, how?
 
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Karan Dua said:
How do i find acceleration @ 1st gear with gear ratio of 31.45:1 @ 2800 RPM?

The acceleration is found with equation 1b on this page. The force Ft in that equation can be found with http://blog.mechguru.com/vehicle-design/tractive-force-calculation-for-a-vehicle/ (TE = Ft).
 
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