Calculate Urine Height from Flow Rate with Excel Graph

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The discussion revolves around calculating the height of urine in a flow meter cup based on the urine flow rate using Excel. Participants are seeking assistance with conversions and applying Bernoulli's Equation to derive the height from volumetric flow rates.

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  • One participant describes the setup of a urine flow meter and requests help with basic conversions necessary for calculating urine height from flow rates.
  • Another participant asks for clarification on which specific conversions are causing difficulty.
  • A participant expresses confusion about converting flow rates to height, noting the dimensions of the cup and the hole.
  • Bernoulli's Equation is suggested as a method to relate flow rate to height, with a formula provided for calculating height based on flow rate and area.
  • Further clarification is requested on how to apply the provided equations, particularly in the context of specific flow rate readings and time intervals.
  • Another participant mentions a similar problem and seeks examples to better understand the application of Bernoulli's Equation in this context.

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Participants express uncertainty and seek clarification on the application of Bernoulli's Equation and the necessary conversions, indicating that there is no consensus on the approach to take.

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Participants have not reached a resolution on how to effectively convert flow rates to height, and there are unresolved questions regarding the application of the equations provided.

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Urine flow meters are used to diagnose urinary flow obstructions such as might occur in the even of enlargement of the prostate gland in men. The Stream-test™ is a simple home uroflow meter consisting of plastic cup with a hole in the base. The maximum height of the urine in the cup is proportional to the maximum urine flow rate.
Write an excel spreadsheet to calculate the height of urine within the cup based on the urine flow pattern provided. Plot a graph showing the instantaneous height of the urine versus time and state the maximum urine height achieved. The dimensions of the cup are as follows:
-The cup is straight sided with an internal diameter of 5cm.
-The hole in the bottom has a diameter of 0.5cm.
PLZZZZZZ can sumone just explain how to do the basic cnversions .
 

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Which basic conversions are you having trouble with?
 
as u can see that in the excel file it shows volumetric flowrates so basically I am having trouble with converting flowrates to height .we have been given the whole cup dia and the gole dia too of the cup whose height is to be measured .
 
helpppppp pleasezzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
 
monatariq said:
Urine flow meters are used to diagnose urinary flow obstructions such as might occur in the even of enlargement of the prostate gland in men. The Stream-test™ is a simple home uroflow meter consisting of plastic cup with a hole in the base. The maximum height of the urine in the cup is proportional to the maximum urine flow rate.
Write an excel spreadsheet to calculate the height of urine within the cup based on the urine flow pattern provided. Plot a graph showing the instantaneous height of the urine versus time and state the maximum urine height achieved. The dimensions of the cup are as follows:
-The cup is straight sided with an internal diameter of 5cm.
-The hole in the bottom has a diameter of 0.5cm.
PLZZZZZZ can sumone just explain how to do the basic cnversions .

Use Bernoulli's Equation. You can make a few assumptions and end up with this equation:

v = \sqrt{2g\Delta{h}}

Multiply that time the area of the hole in the bottom and you end up with the flow rate (which you are given).

Q = A\sqrt{2g\Delta{h}}

Solve for h (the height) and plot it.

CS
 
sorry ,i think I am just not understanding what ur saying .
for example if I am taking a reading at time =3secs and flow rate = 10 ml/s
so first step u say is multiply 3 into the smaller area.?even if i do so how come it gives me flowrate ,?can u please elaborate all by some example. i hope u understand that the values r of flow in.i basically need the flow out from which i can get the volume retained n thus the height .
please answer ASAP .the deadline is in three daysss;(
 
stewartcs said:
Use Bernoulli's Equation. You can make a few assumptions and end up with this equation:

v = \sqrt{2g\Delta{h}}

Multiply that time the area of the hole in the bottom and you end up with the flow rate (which you are given).

Q = A\sqrt{2g\Delta{h}}

Solve for h (the height) and plot it.

CS

So I'm a bit unsure if I should start a new thread, but I have a similar problem with similar data. I cannot understand how to apply Bernoulli's equations to the flow rate to solve for height.

Any help would be appreciated. Examples would be very helpful.

Thank you
 

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