Calculating a Collision of Two Rotating Objects

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The discussion revolves around calculating the collision of two rotating objects, specifically focusing on how to determine post-collision linear and angular velocities. Participants explore the complexities involved, including the role of friction in these calculations.

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  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks a formula to calculate post-collision velocities using various parameters such as velocity vectors, angular velocities, and elasticities.
  • Another participant suggests looking into "Conservation of Momentum" and "Conservation of Angular Momentum" for guidance.
  • A participant claims to have found a solution online but notes that it does not consider friction.
  • Questions arise regarding the role of friction in collisions, with one participant asserting that friction may not affect the collision itself but could influence the speeds and distances post-impact.
  • Another participant emphasizes that without friction, angular momentum transfer may not occur during the collision.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the significance of friction in the context of the collision, indicating a lack of consensus on its role and implications.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved assumptions regarding the influence of friction on the collision dynamics and the specific conditions under which the calculations are made.

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I am trying to find a way to calculate a collision of two objects with rotation. I only managed to find two explanations on the internet, and even they didn't consider friction.

I do know these things that may be helpful:

velocity vectors of the objects
velocity vectors of the colliding point on the objects
surface normal and tangent
angular velocities of the objects
masses of the objects
elasticities of the objects
frictions of the objects

Is there a formula that can tell me the post-collision linear and angular velocities of the objects from this information?
 
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Search for "Conservation of Momentum" and "Conservation of Angular Momentum" - you should be able to find some explanations and examples.

-Kerry
 
I figured it out by this website (Link)

The only problem is that it does not account for friction.
 
What do you mean, it doesn't account for friction? Where is it that you are expecting friction to come into play? Can you give an example?

Typically, this type of problem involves considering the system just before and just after impact, so if there is friction between the two bodies and the surface they are sliding on, for example, that has no influence on the collision. It may influence the speeds at which they come into contact and the distances that they travel after the impact, however.

-Kerry
 
KLoux said:
What do you mean, it doesn't account for friction? Where is it that you are expecting friction to come into play? Can you give an example?
Without friction between the balls, no angular momentum (spin) will be transfered.
 

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