Calculating Acceleration and Tension in a Pulley System with Inclined Planes

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving a pulley system with two blocks on inclined planes. Block X is on an incline at an angle of 35.7 degrees, while Block Y hangs vertically. Participants are exploring how to calculate the acceleration and tension in the system, considering the forces acting on each block.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the gravitational forces acting on both blocks and the need to resolve forces into components. There is a focus on writing equations of motion for each block and the relationship between tension and acceleration. Questions arise about the role of normal force and how to handle multiple variables in the equations.

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The discussion is active, with participants attempting to clarify the setup and relationships between forces. Some guidance has been offered regarding the equations to use, but there is still uncertainty about how to proceed with the calculations given the unknowns involved.

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Participants are working under the assumption that the incline is frictionless. There is some confusion regarding the normal force acting on Block Y, which is hanging vertically, and how that relates to the forces in the system.

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Please help me because my teacher has not explained how to do questions involving angles.

Blocks X and Y of masses mx=5.12kg and my=3.22kg are connected by a fishing line passing over a frictionless pulley. Show that block X slides up the incline (35.7 degrees above the horizontal) with positive acceleration. Determine the magnitude of the acceleration. (0.273m/s2 is the answer)

i want to find the gravitational force for mass x so Fg=5.12x9.8=50.2N
For mass y f=mg =3.22x9.8=31.6N

Just like with projectile problems you need to find the x and y components of Ftension for block x,which is getting pulled up at an angle but how do i do that if i don't know the applied force?
 
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So the block y is hanging vertically?

Write the [tex]\Sigma F=ma[/tex] equation for the block y, and the [tex]\Sigma F=ma[/tex] equations for block x

Call the tension T. The acceleration of block y downward equals the acceleration of block x up the plane. Call this a.

Is the incline frictionless?

You have 2 unknowns T and a which you should be able to solve for with the equations you get.
 
yes, the incline is frictionless and block y is hanging vertically. if i know that the normal force of y is 31.6N, does that help me in any way?
 
emma3001 said:
yes, the incline is frictionless and block y is hanging vertically. if i know that the normal force of y is 31.6N, does that help me in any way?

If block y is hanging... how is there a normal force?

The way you described the problem... there are 2 forces acting on y... the weight, and tension... write the [tex]\Sigma f = ma[/tex] equation for y.
 
oops... i guess i meant the gravitational force is 31.6N.
 
if i only have the weight of block y how am i able to find out FT? After all, isn't FT calculated by saying

Fnet=FT-Fg

do i not have 2 variables here?
 
emma3001 said:
if i only have the weight of block y how am i able to find out FT? After all, isn't FT calculated by saying

Fnet=FT-Fg

do i not have 2 variables here?

yes... I'll call FT, T...

Fnet = T - my*g

now... I'm going to take a as the downward acceleration... taking up as positive and down as negative:

my*(-a) = T - my*g (which has two variables, a and T)

can you come up with an equation for block x?
 
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